What's more dangerous?????
 

Someone over taking you at 70 in a 60 or coming across some numpty travellling at 40(if your lucky!) in a 60 zone??????

Yep the 2nd part of that is all I've had on a round trip to Keele to take my daughter back. I was going to go out on my bike but couldn't stand the thought of having to go through it all again when I should be enjoying myself!!!!!!

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letting it get to you is more dangerous

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It's easy to overtake on the bike, why worry?

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i do 40mph in a 60 zone!........ in my lorry .....its the law!

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+1 annoying as it is, on Bank holidays or any given Sunday, you know you'll not have a trouble free journey anywhere so best to get yourself in the mindset that you'll just muddle through it. Getting annoyed.

I just came home through Lacock where the hundreds of tourists think that it's all pedestrianised......it took me over 5 minutes to travel a 200yard high street and that's not an exaggeration.

I feel for you, but just breathe and forget about it :-)

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I had similar problem in Leeds at uni, I just fitted louder pipe and opened throttle. They moved :smt081

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Well, if I'd been on the babyblade with the blowing downpipes and Quill endcan with no baffle....they'd have moved...

Or would they? I was in the Discovery and yep, when you rev it you can REALLY hear it but they just seem to go deaf when looking at pretty old cottages. So glad we don't live down there, it would drive me nuts.

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Women drivers.

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I do hate people who go 40 no matter the limit. I particularly hate it when you are on a nice open 60 road where its easy to do the limit but they dont then they speed off into the distance in 30's. WTF!?

Anyway, as said, try to keep calm and just enjoy it. You can over take them pretty easy later on. :)

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Mhm, one of my hates and happens everytime I take the backroads to work...

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Another is when on a bypass with a right turn at the next roundabout someone driving at 50mph (in a 70 zone) pulls into the right lane to turn right 2 miles before the bloody roundabout!!!

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What's more annoying is when they do it at night and they obviously don't know what the high beam switch is for, so you can't see in front of them to overtake them!

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I have to admit I just undertake them in that situation.

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ahh! now i dont use the high beem if I feel i dont need it.. should i put them on so some nobber behind can overtake me on a dark country lane?.. i dont think so.. be patient my friend

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A34 coming back from henley in arden yesterday, stupid nob decides to overtake coming the other way while its double solid white lines just as i come round the corner, admittedly i just moved far left but could have easily been worse.
Gave him some verbal in his corsa, didnt even look like a chav.
If that was bikes doing that it would be heavily frowned upon, person he overtook didnt seem at all bothered.

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Very good sir.

You should have come in for a coffee

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Oh yeah, also two of my pet hates!!!!

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So undertake them

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I turn the mirrors so I'm not blinded

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Actually i would have of if i thought of it :)

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You missed the point, I'm talking about folk that don't use high beam, therefore when you are behind them, you can't see far enough into the distance to overtake them. Of course if they were using high beam, they'd probably be driving faster anyway because they could see, and there would be no need to overtake them.

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I don't think that overtaking at 70 in a 60 is necessarily dangerous, and travelling at less than the limit is similarly not by necessity dangerous.

Both may or may not be perfectly safe dependant on circumstance.

Ummmmm... Is it you? :)

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You have no control over anyone else so why get chewed about it?

Just be sensible, and you'll live to enjoy riding longer

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The dangerous one is the one you haven't allowed for in your riding - doesn't matter what speed its doing

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I misread your post, sorry. I never rely on anyone else's lights to guide my route for me. I'd just up my game, get alongside and flick to high beam when it's not going to dazzle the driver I'm overtaking, or flick to high beam beforehand so I can dazzle him, and wait for him to slow down and make it easier for me to overtake.

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I've read a study done in the 90s about speed limits. They were trying to justify the speed enforcement game and all that. Big surprise, they found that when they set the legal speed higher, fewer accidents would occur. In fact, it's the speed difference between normal traffic and your own that matters.

As it stands, 20 mph beneath the normal driving speed increases the risk of accident ~400%, whereas 20 over increases it ~300%.

So, theoreticaly speaking, driving 40 in a 60 is far more risky than 70..

That being said, although speed is not a major factor in accidents (studies say in actuallity, speed is a factor in 7% of accidents), the consequences of them is speed dependent.

And yeah, slow drivers pi*s me off as well, it's not bad enough that the roads are clogged and traffic around here is down the drain, but when you get to some open road there's always that odd driver that keeps everyone else stuck

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Tossers over here say "speed was a factor in this accident" when someone crashes doing 40mph in a 60 limit and use that as an excuse to lower speed limit! What will that achieve, people still do same speed in same place and still crash!

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Agreed. What really annoys me is knobs on bikes who do 50 through 30s and then hold me up in the twisties, like Mr GSX-R 1000 and Mr 675 on Sunday. Learn to ride properly and then no need to speed through built up areas to keep up. :smt092