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Teejayexc 28-01-11 11:08 PM

Frank Thomas goes bust !
 
http://www.frank-thomas.co.uk/cgi-bin/ft_news.pl?id=791

Dave20046 28-01-11 11:11 PM

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And motrax ;)

Not good news really I know for those who've lost jobs but the group of companies get slated so often I'm not really surprised.
I did think Raven were affiliated with Frank thomas too though?

speedplay 28-01-11 11:12 PM

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"Motrax Motorcycle Accessories Limited"


I know someone on here will be please to see that...

arcdef 28-01-11 11:32 PM

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Shows what a state the industry is in, even if they produce cheap/poor quality kit, there is always a market for it, and i always see plenty of people wearing it!

hardhat_harry 28-01-11 11:37 PM

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Wonder if they will send their stands off cheap I could do with another one

Dave20046 28-01-11 11:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speedplay (Post 2470937)
"Motrax Motorcycle Accessories Limited"


I know someone on here will be please to see that...

I wonder if he'll buy all their remaining 'repair-o-pegs" on the cheap :razz:

speedplay 28-01-11 11:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 2470975)
I wonder if he'll buy all their remaining 'repair-o-pegs" on the cheap :razz:

I wonder where it leaves the patent...

andrewsmith 28-01-11 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speedplay (Post 2470937)
"Motrax Motorcycle Accessories Limited"


I know someone on here will be please to see that...

I know several!

davepreston 29-01-11 03:46 AM

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with any luck it was a nice lawsuit for stealing intilectual copyright and having to pay a big check to someone that did it

xXBADGERXx 29-01-11 07:51 AM

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Didn`t they also do textiles for "Lewis Leathers" ..... on the plus side there may be some cheap BKS stuff knocking around soon for all you Prancing Dandies

timwilky 29-01-11 08:20 AM

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No wonder they went under.

Poor quality, overpriced and dodgy practices.

I think this is one company most will be glad to see the back of.

xXBADGERXx 29-01-11 08:25 AM

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I had something from them years ago , so far back I cannot remember what it was .... All I remember was it got tossed into a bin with a vow to never buy from them again , and that was back in the early 90`s

kellyjo 29-01-11 08:27 AM

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Its a shame, their stuff may not have been the best but at least they catered for us 'curvy' ladies, where many of the better brands dont.

G 29-01-11 08:35 AM

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They are in administration, not liquidation.

Somebody will probably buy the business, it's has good stockist (helfrauds & most bike shops) and well enough known brands.

mcgrimes 29-01-11 09:26 AM

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My dads gonna be upset, its the only brand of biking clothes he'll get!

AndyBrad 29-01-11 10:37 AM

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love my ft jacket and trousers. took 7 pairs to get some that were right but excellent for fat arsed monkeys like myself :) hope i can get a cheep jacket now :) feeel sorry for those working for them tho

Lozzo 29-01-11 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 2471061)
No wonder they went under.

Poor quality, overpriced and dodgy practices.

I think this is one company most will be glad to see the back of.


A very big +1 on that.

yorkie_chris 29-01-11 11:41 AM

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Nice to see a company get results to match it's integrity and values :)

-Ralph- 29-01-11 11:43 AM

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Oxford products won't be happy either, they are the UK distributor for Motrax.

Shame to see BKS affected though.

Lozzo 29-01-11 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kellyjo (Post 2471064)
Its a shame, their stuff may not have been the best but at least they catered for us 'curvy' ladies, where many of the better brands dont.

They didn't specifically cater for curvy ladies, that was just bad patterning and design on the factory's part and the products were branded slightly differently to appeal to curvier ladies. FT couldn't give a damn about their customers as long as they sold products, and that came from one of their old reps who happens to be an old friend of mine and my housemate.

They stole designs and features from everyone, their reps were instructed to buy any kit they saw that might be of interest to the design teams so it could be copied in some way or another - that's how FT worked. It came as no surprise to me that Motrax thieved the fixer-peg design, they've done it lots of times before.

Of their higher management - in 20 years of working in the wholesale side of the bike trade, I had never come across more obnoxious people than the people at the top of the FT group. Peter Laugton, Simon Throw and others were the ultimate w**kers as far as I and many others were concerned.

I hope they go down for good, and stay down too. Motorcycling will be so much better off without them.

SoulKiss 29-01-11 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2471121)
Said Stuff

Isn't it true that their returns heap was visible from space? :)

Lozzo 29-01-11 11:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2471119)
Oxford products won't be happy either, they are the UK distributor for Motrax.

Shame to see BKS affected though.

Why?

BKS off the peg leathers are the same sh!te that FT have been churning out for years, just with different badging. All of it is made in the far east in the same factories and FT were simply trying to trade on a respected name, just like they did with Lewis Leathers a few years ago.

The previous owner of BKS has taken his money and run, leaving FT to screw it all up and devalue the name. The only BKS worth buying recently was the made to measure stuff, and the quality of that started to decline as soon as FT bought them out.

I think you'll find Oxford Products are nothing to do with Motax and distribute their own line of accessories in the UK and abroad. Some may look the same, some may even be the same, but Oxford were never the Motrax distributor in UK. Motrax had their own reps working for them, as do Oxford. Both distributed their accessories from two totally different and unconnected warehouses in Oxford and Irthlingborough.

Lozzo 29-01-11 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2471125)
Isn't it true that their returns heap was visible from space? :)

It's been said that only two man made items were visible by the naked eye from the moon - The Great Wall of China and the FT returns and seconds marquees at the BMF show

Lozzo 29-01-11 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgrimes (Post 2471075)
My dads gonna be upset, its the only brand of biking clothes he'll get!

Your dad should stop being a pikey and look at other better respected brands. FT stuff was crap.

-Ralph- 29-01-11 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2471126)
Oxford were never the Motrax distributor in UK

My source is one of the current directors of Oxprod, you are wrong, and I also note that you are speaking in the past tense. They also distribute HJC and Shuberth

-Ralph- 29-01-11 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2471129)
Your dad should stop being a pikey

:toss: No need for that. Nobody has insulted your family.

Lozzo 29-01-11 12:30 PM

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Oxford will only distribute Motrax goods when they have bought them off a dealer as a part of a stocking plan. When a dealer decides to kick Motrax out and put Oxford in, Oxford will buy any existing Motrax stuff from that dealer and then flog it off at cost to whoever wants it. Oxford have never 'distributed' Motrax products officially, they just dump old Motrax stock to get their own on the shelves.

I've just spoken to a friend who works in a bike shop who recently kicked Motrax out and he gave me this information. I could have phoned an acquaintance who is (was?) a Motrax rep, but his phone isn't switched on right now... I wonder why. Another of my old colleagues is a current Oxford rep, as soon as I get his mobile number I'll give him a call too. I think you may have your wires crossed as Oxford and Motrax have been at each others throats since god was a teenager and would never do business with each other in this way. They are the two main competitors in this market and in direct fierce competition.

HJC helmets have been distributed by Oxford for many years, in fact Oxford brought the brand into the UK. Schuberth were originally distributed by Tran-Am, not Motrax, and only recently got taken on by Oxford. Motrax were distributors of Caberg and Arashi helmets.

Lozzo 29-01-11 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2471138)
:toss: No need for that. Nobody has insulted your family.

Why not?

FT gear is pikey and if someone would only buy FT gear then there's something distinctly pikey about them.

If one of my family bought pikey gear I'd call them a pikey too.

yorkie_chris 29-01-11 12:33 PM

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I call someone a pikey if they're wearing trainers, stop being tho thenthetive ducky

G 29-01-11 12:33 PM

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Lol :rolleyes: usual story here then in the last few posts.

Lozzo 29-01-11 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2471153)
Lol :rolleyes: usual story here then in the last few posts.

You mean me knowing what I'm on about through having been involved with that industry for 20 odd years and someone else not... Yeah, I can see that too.

Biker Biggles 29-01-11 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2471138)
:toss: No need for that. Nobody has insulted your family.

:joker:No one insulted Lozzo's family?

Bl00dy Maltese----Pikeys of the Med IMO.:elephant:

Lozzo 29-01-11 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 2471161)
:joker:No one insulted Lozzo's family?

Bl00dy Maltese----Pikeys of the Med IMO.:elephant:

Haha :lol: Though this may be true of my own family, I think Zunkus might get offended by that statement. Having met some of them, I can say they are totally and utterly non-pikey.

-Ralph- 29-01-11 12:54 PM

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:-({|==;:smt035:-dd=D>:smt098:smt033\\:D/

:smt039

Lozzo 29-01-11 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2471165)
:-({|==;:smt035:-dd=D>:smt098:smt033\\:D/

:smt039

The most sensible thing Ralph has ever posted

Teejayexc 29-01-11 01:03 PM

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Oh dear, from such a simple post :-(

-Ralph- 29-01-11 01:25 PM

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He just can't help wading into threads cannons blazing, throwing insults and arguing with everything. It's all very well calling each other pikey's when it's in good humour and the recipient knows that, but Lozzo neither knows nor cares how McGrimes is going to feel about it. Would he have said it to McGrimes face? If McGrimes happens to be built like a s**t brickhouse, I bet he wouldn't.

And when he posts stuff like this he just shows himself to have absolutely zero credibility. What does he think he is? Some kind of Mafioso?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2450544)
My old housemate and I decided that if we ever caught anyone trying to nick our bikes, the police would never find his body. We figured no body = no crime.


Milky Bar Kid 29-01-11 01:31 PM

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Seriously, will you two put each other on ignore and get bloody over it. You are both behaving like a pair of kids and to be honest, it makes you both look like idiots when we all know that neither of you are.

GROW UP!

-Ralph- 29-01-11 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 2471177)
Seriously, will you two put each other on ignore and get bloody over it. You are both behaving like a pair of kids and to be honest, it makes you both look like idiots when we all know that neither of you are.

GROW UP!

Can you talk to me like that to my face please? With your uniform on? Don't forget the suspender belt ;)

fizzwheel 29-01-11 01:42 PM

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Guys thats enough.

If you have differences to settle then do it via PM and no more bickering on the open forum, or use the ignore function.

If theres a post on the forum you dont like, then hit the report post button and let a moderator deal with, dont start ripping each other a new a*sehole in public.


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