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grimey121uk 08-02-11 08:37 AM

Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
An odd question but,

Why do people who enjoy walking in the country side hate any kind of vehicle that makes a noise.

I often ride my bike around Rivington (Bolton) and the amount of times I find wakers pointing their fingers / waving in an attempt me to slow down, there was an incident last week where an old guy give some rude hand gestures at me as i opened it up coming out of a bend, bearing in mind its a 60mph road and i was doing around 40-45 (in-fact on this stretch id struggle to hit 60mph).

Another example is jetski's and powerboats being banned from lake Windermere due to the noise, this was due to walkers moaning about the noise from the engines which made the council enforce a low speed limit on the lake (effectively banning powered boats).

Any thoughts on this?

beabert 08-02-11 08:43 AM

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Well it does detract from pleasent atmosphere some what, no excuse for hand gestures though. I find walkers very pleasent when walking :D

As for the lakes, they should keep the rest quiet and lift the limit on windermere the main tourist trap

husky03 08-02-11 08:46 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
probably because their peace and quiet is often ruined by folk like us with race cans and no baffels are giving it plenty of wrist twist-that and the fact that they are often on the road itself.
As for windemere-its a place of natural beauty,with great wildlife, its a pain if you go their to relax and see the wildlife when an idiot on a jet ski zooms bye at stupid speed-but in saying that there should be a place for jetskis and powerboats-hold on there is, its called the North sea.

grimey121uk 08-02-11 08:58 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
I understand that walkers want to enjoy the countryside, but so do I, just in a different way.
Why do walkers think they should have the priority?

Why would someone on a jetski be an idiot?

timwilky 08-02-11 08:58 AM

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The principal problem with rivvy is that there is no separation between walker and rider. You come round a bend cranked over at even 40mph and the walker assumes you are out of control and blasting. We know this is not the case, but they will take the moral highground and act like pillocks.

It is our countryside as much as theirs. These are public highways and if taxed, insured and licensed there is no reason why we should not enjoy them it as much as the walkers enjoy it.

As for the stupid speed limit in the lakes, it ruined the place for water sport enthusiasts. Killed a whole sector of the tourist industry

grimey121uk 08-02-11 09:03 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 2477664)
The principal problem with rivvy is that there is no separation between walker and rider. You come round a bend cranked over at even 40mph and the walker assumes you are out of control and blasting. We know this is not the case, but they will take the moral highground and act like pillocks.

It is our countryside as much as theirs. These are public highways and if taxed, insured and licensed there is no reason why we should not enjoy them it as much as the walkers enjoy it.

As for the stupid speed limit in the lakes, it ruined the place for water sport enthusiasts. Killed a whole sector of the tourist industry

It certainly did kill of a lot of trade, in fact a lot of local business owners that originally helped to get the ban in place are now fighting to get it removed, The group we ski in has 4 skis and a master-craft boat but the party of people is about 30+, yep thats 30+ people that need food and drink, as well as car parking and fuel. Daft **** business owners, serves then right that their trade is now down

And anyone who has issue with jet-skiers please don't generalise us, yes there are nobs that go and buy a 500quid ski from ebay and then screw it around rivers and the sea 10 foot away from the coast line and swimmers, The same could be said for bikers, you get a minority of scroats that ride scooters around like they are toys and driving over pavements etc

However the majority of jetskiers are sensible and take it serious, I have an RYA certification for personal water crafts and we also have fully comp insurance as well as all the safety gear.

beabert 08-02-11 09:09 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grimey121uk (Post 2477663)
I understand that walkers want to enjoy the countryside, but so do I, just in a different way.
Why do walkers think they should have the priority?

Use the standard can, i never have a problem.

grimey121uk 08-02-11 09:10 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beabert (Post 2477673)
Use the standard can, i never have a problem.

Why should I, it looks horrible and sounds crap.
My can is road legal and has the baffle in

timwilky 08-02-11 09:15 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
A loud can is an essential safety feature, it tells the brain dead to get out the road in advance you you having to do a stoppy because they cannot associate the sound of an approaching bike with the requirement of said bike to use a section of road.

husky03 08-02-11 09:18 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grimey121uk (Post 2477663)
Why would someone on a jetski be an idiot?

In my experience mate the people i've had the misfortune of meeting on jetskis have been total plebs who think that they own the piece of water there on and have the divine right to go where they want at what ever speed they want-mind you to be honest I have always been fishing while doing so-you sound as if your part of an organised group but up here its the chav drug dealers who have money who seem to enjoy ripping up the water and giving everyone else the finger.

grimey121uk 08-02-11 09:18 AM

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What i don't understand is there is a place like Rivington which is for everyone to enjoy,
In fact before I got into bikes i would go there on a nice day an enjoy watching / photographing the bikes.

But why do walkers think it belongs to them, why do people with vehicles always seem to come 2nd

Specialone 08-02-11 09:20 AM

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IMO, the way Windermere had the lake set up was fine as it was, low speed limits by the populated areas, then no limits everywhere else.

I took my boat up there at busy times, water skiers, sailing boats etc seemed fine to me, loads of room, people being sensible and not getting too close to each other.

I'd love a jetbike btw, I'd also rather use it in fresh water not salt water.

husky03 08-02-11 09:20 AM

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because the walk was before the ride-that and their middle class old gits with too much money and not enough viagra.

Dicky Ticker 08-02-11 09:22 AM

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If I am in no hurry I stop and walk back and politely ask the meaning of the gesticulation expaining the road is for everyone-----impolite answer induces wrath.
Most of them do not expect you to stop.

grimey121uk 08-02-11 09:24 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2477678)
In my experience mate the people i've had the misfortune of meeting on jetskis have been total plebs who think that they own the piece of water there on and have the divine right to go where they want at what ever speed they want-mind you to be honest I have always been fishing while doing so-you sound as if your part of an organised group but up here its the chav drug dealers who have money who seem to enjoy ripping up the water and giving everyone else the finger.

Thats the thing with nob head jetskiers, they are he only ones the general public see, us lot go a lot further out / down river. That said the noise must still annoy people trying to fish but sadly thats life, it would be impossible for us to find a bit of water that someone doesn't fish

Trust me decent skiers hate the guts of the "ebay skiers" While trying to launch our skis we have to put up with ***** screwing it at 50 mph just feet away from the launching area, 18 months (new years day) ago we had to drag a young lad out of the water who came off his 500quid ski. It was -6 (water was 0.5 degrees) and he had a shorty style summer wetsuit on, 30 seconds and he went into major shock.

Specialone 08-02-11 09:27 AM

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A lot of them are selfish and think the world revolves around them.

That said, when were green laning, we make an effort to be civil to people we come across as it breaks down barriers.

The same things happens in parks with people walking, walking their dogs, mt bikers etc, I went to a local park recently and the amount of people walking their dogs off the leads was unreal, I think that is more anti social than me on my mtb, in fairness though, a lot did call their dogs or restrained them as we came past and were pleasant to us so no harm done I suppose.
The ramblers were the fecking ones who won't move out your way, some of them are arrogant.

Specialone 08-02-11 09:31 AM

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In regards to fishing, there will always be friction between fishermen and boats etc, they both think they have more rights.
A bloke I used to work with was a right Cnut when he used to get into spats with boat users, so fishers aren't exempt either.

Stingo 08-02-11 10:00 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
I am so dissapointed...I thought this thread was going to be a rant at a well known manufacturer of crisps and the like...

grimey121uk 08-02-11 10:03 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingo (Post 2477706)
I am so dissapointed...I thought this thread was going to be a rant at a well known manufacturer of crisps and the like...

Haha, I thought they sold bags of fresh air, never many crisps in their bags

beabert 08-02-11 10:04 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grimey121uk (Post 2477676)
Why should I, it looks horrible and sounds crap.
My can is road legal and has the baffle in

Because of the unwanted attention it is bringing you. If you will miss the sound make a recording and play it on your hifi lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 2477677)
A loud can is an essential safety feature, it tells the brain dead to get out the road in advance you you having to do a stoppy because they cannot associate the sound of an approaching bike with the requirement of said bike to use a section of road.

Yep no one with a loud can gets hit... lol If you filtering blip the throttle, works for me.

Bri w 08-02-11 10:30 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Live and let live

Not all walkers are nokbs, just as not all bikers or jet skiers. As for the ones that are, don't waste your time on them. They probably won't change, and confrontation just makes things worse.

As for dogwalkers, and dogs off the lead. Bess is rarely on a lead but will come back and sit next to me if shouted. Just like nokbs walking/biking/jetsking you'll get idiots anywhere you go - best not raise your blood pressure worrying about it.

dizzyblonde 08-02-11 10:37 AM

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'Ramblers' for the correct term. Miserable, because they all have 'beige' lives.:rolleyes:

I know someone close, who got with a lady of a rather colourful reputation....so we thought, she converted him to rambling, he was into mountain biking, had rather a penchant for loud motosickles too before he started going out with her.
Hes now very beige, hardly rides a motorcycle....and she pretty much dresses him like a beige Les Battersby.


BEIGE miserable gits. Although it is nice to have a peacful walk in the countryside, with the dog, but even he gets looked at in a mean manner when he runs upto them and puts his muddy feet all over their beige trousers:smt040

grimey121uk 08-02-11 10:44 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bri w (Post 2477739)
Live and let live

Not all walkers are nokbs, just as not all bikers or jet skiers. As for the ones that are, don't waste your time on them. They probably won't change, and confrontation just makes things worse.

As for dogwalkers, and dogs off the lead. Bess is rarely on a lead but will come back and sit next to me if shouted. Just like nokbs walking/biking/jetsking you'll get idiots anywhere you go - best not raise your blood pressure worrying about it.

Although it isn't all of the walkers round here, it does seem to be the majority of them but not all of then, I had a rather good chat with an old guy the last week up rivvy, he was saying he had had bikes for 40+ years, his favourite was a "Honda Dream". Nice chap he was too, he had to stop riding due to a heart condition to he took to walking to keep fit.

I understand that people want peace and quite sometimes however if i wanted to walk and get away for noise, I wouldn't walk on a pavement that is joined to a 60mph road and then complain about vehicle noise

Daimo 08-02-11 10:57 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2477678)
In my experience mate the people i've had the misfortune of meeting on jetskis have been total plebs who think that they own the piece of water there on and have the divine right to go where they want at what ever speed they want-mind you to be honest I have always been fishing while doing so-you sound as if your part of an organised group but up here its the chav drug dealers who have money who seem to enjoy ripping up the water and giving everyone else the finger.


And how does this differ from motorcyclists, car enthusiasts etc?

Stop moaning.

Nothing wrong with Jetskiing, and people whinging used to REALLY p1ss me off. We started a club to avoid this years ago.

And as for the North Sea... please tell me, have you ever been swimming mid winter in the North sea? I very much doubt it.

Ed 08-02-11 11:01 AM

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Grimey I have to agree. Where I live it's the same, I pay road tax and insurance, buy fuel at rip off rates, and I have a licence, so I'm entitled to use the road too. And if they don't like it I'll run them over:smt019

grimey121uk 08-02-11 11:04 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 2477767)
And how does this differ from motorcyclists, car enthusiasts etc?

Stop moaning.

Nothing wrong with Jetskiing, and people whinging used to REALLY p1ss me off. We started a club to avoid this years ago.

And as for the North Sea... please tell me, have you ever been swimming mid winter in the North sea? I very much doubt it.

I think the point he is making is regarding idiots on skies not decent skiers

as I have said p1sses me of a lot, I can see why people get annoyed with them dicking around, but on the flip side its only an annoyance to passers but imagine how I feel, I have a 5 grand ski sat in the water with family / friends on it while some brainless chavs screw it around 5 feet away, this isn't just annoying very dangerous.

I remember last year (while working in photography sales) I got chatting to a customer who wanted a water proof camera to take pictures of his catch while fishing, I them asked him where he fished and he replied the River Lune, I happened to mention that I often ski up there, he then went to rant on about how I spoil his sport and then stormed off.
What gives him the right to think he owns the river and that ONLY his sport/hobby can take place on it?

Daimo 08-02-11 11:15 AM

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Chavs on the water don't last long from experience. If your at sea, the coastgaurd usually puts them in their place. You get chav speedboaters as well.

As for your fisher, that shows he's not a very clued up one..

When we ski'd on the lakes, the fisherman loved us. It disturbed the lakebed, throwing up mud, making their floats hard to spot, hence they always caught more fish when we were about.

Biker Biggles 08-02-11 11:51 AM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 2477767)

And as for the North Sea... please tell me, have you ever been swimming mid winter in the North sea? I very much doubt it.

Ive been swimming in the North Sea in winter.Its great.Far warmer than standing on the beach:cool:

timwilky 08-02-11 11:59 AM

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You lot have to remember that for the OP the north sea is not an option, the Irish sea is far nearer and that is filthy. Whether it be nuclear waste or human waste, it is not a sea it is a dumping ground. Also used for the dumping of chemical and traditional munitions etc.

You could probably walk past Blackpool on the floaters.

husky03 08-02-11 12:07 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 2477767)
And how does this differ from motorcyclists, car enthusiasts etc?

Stop moaning.

Nothing wrong with Jetskiing, and people whinging used to REALLY p1ss me off. We started a club to avoid this years ago.

And as for the North Sea... please tell me, have you ever been swimming mid winter in the North sea? I very much doubt it.


Daimo- you miss the point i'm making-the jet skiers I'VE met are plebs-chavs who go out and act like chavs and say to hell with everyone else.

As for moaning -you've got a cheek=-you moan like feck on here so shut yer gob;)

Your opinion mate-and its easy to see you get REALLY wound up-maybe you should go start another club for wound up people.

Aye- so when your trout fishing you want the bottom all dregded up eh?-me thinks your talking the proverbial pi$h again.:)

H.
xxx

DaveW_42 08-02-11 12:09 PM

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I thought this was a rant against me!

DaveyF 08-02-11 12:37 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
My Dad is a walker. He also rides a motorbike and fancies abit of green laning. We got flagged down on ride by walkers once who started berating me becuase they felt the road was too narrow for motorbikes (not sure of the logic), then my Dad walks up, takes of his lid and turns out he knows them.

Amusing sheepish apologies follow and my Dad points out a nice footpath that they will enjoy and keep them away from 'noisy, scary, horrible motorcycles'. A good day.

The Idle Biker 08-02-11 12:45 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Walkers are miserable gits because;
a) they wear kagools and subconsciously they know they look sad
b) they are sad
c) they envy bikers because we look sexy and tough
d) we are sexy and tough
e) their partners are ugly (except DavyF's Dads) and the kagools make them sweaty and grumpy
f ) another 200 reasons but I have work to do now.

Daimo 08-02-11 12:56 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2477833)
Daimo- you miss the point i'm making-the jet skiers I'VE met are plebs-chavs who go out and act like chavs and say to hell with everyone else.

As for moaning -you've got a cheek=-you moan like feck on here so shut yer gob;)

Your opinion mate-and its easy to see you get REALLY wound up-maybe you should go start another club for wound up people.

Aye- so when your trout fishing you want the bottom all dregded up eh?-me thinks your talking the proverbial pi$h again.:)

H.
xxx


I don't get really wound up at all :lol: Just because a few words may appear that way, doesn't mean it portaits my emotional state.

I can write a whole load of nasty stuff, without feeling an hate or anger. I think you need to become more aware about text within an online format.

Your right, im not a fisherman, i've got a life ;) and obviously those we chatted to were not fishing for trout. Not in a poxy small lake anyway.

So the sarcasm attempt failed my pension collecting friend.

thulfi 08-02-11 12:58 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
salt and vinegars the best flavour.

husky03 08-02-11 01:06 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 2477864)
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So the sarcasm attempt failed my pension collecting friend.


Daimo-you should know better than most if it was an attempt at sarcasm it would have been followed with a :rolleyes: and not a ;) so :rolleyes:

Ed 08-02-11 01:53 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingo (Post 2477706)
I am so dissapointed...I thought this thread was going to be a rant at a well known manufacturer of crisps and the like...

I remember that Hovis once had a rant about this, cos he bought a package and it contained all of eight crisps:lol:

Reeder 08-02-11 01:56 PM

Re: Why are "Walkers" miserable gits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 2477864)
Your right, im not a fisherman, i've got a life ;)

Firstly - *You're
Secondly - Do I not have a life?

Daimo 08-02-11 02:06 PM

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Ooooo Internet spelling police :P
Nahh its a blanket statement. Not all fishermen haven't got lifes ;)
Husky, its banter :p

Reeder 08-02-11 02:07 PM

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Just most ;)


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