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Terah 17-02-11 03:43 PM

Abba vs NWS stands
 
Hi. Am looking for a stand that can be used one person and had settled on the Abba before seeing someone else mention NWS.

Before I buy just wondering if anyone could explain the pros/cons of either?

Sid Squid 17-02-11 03:53 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Abba requires adaptors to fit each machine, NWS has tapered pins so it doesn't require a kit to fit each bike, (but see comment below).
NWS has a back stop so the stand is locked upright once the bike is on it, Abba doesn't and isn't as stable.

Both work in the same way - they engage in the swingarm pivot to become effectively a centrestand, (a big one - oooer). I've owned both and I'd use either, but I wouldn't buy another Abba as the NWS is simply better and more stable.

Some people have rightly pointed out the pins on the NWS won't engage in a solid swingarm pivot, in this circumstance put a socket on each end and secure the stand to that, I've done this many times and it's perfectly stable, and the adaptors, (such as they are), are on your socket rail already rather than being extra cost.

tom-k6 17-02-11 04:05 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
what are the advantages of these stands over say paddock stands??

AndyBrad 17-02-11 04:11 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
ten times more stable. easier to use on your own if on a slope. can fift the front end.

monkey 17-02-11 04:42 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
I don't think NWS stand are available any more.

I can't really see why a tapered adapters can't be used in the Abba stand for all bikes.

Stu 17-02-11 04:49 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tom-k6 (Post 2484589)
what are the advantages of these stands over say paddock stands??

Hands up whose running bike (in gear) has fallen off a paddock stand
:smt039
But utter faith in an NWS - just more effort to build an NWS & put it on.

maviczap 17-02-11 06:15 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey (Post 2484636)
I don't think NWS stand are available any more.

Thats what I thought, but the webpage is still up and running? :confused:

http://www.n-w-s.com/nws/

Someone said Pyramid bought yhe rights to manufacture them, which is backed up by the other bits for sale on the site

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey (Post 2484636)
I can't really see why a tapered adapters can't be used in the Abba stand for all bikes.

Because Abba wouldn't make as much money from all of us buying new adaptor kits ;)

monkey 17-02-11 06:26 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Well spank my arrse and call me Susan. It looks like they are selling them.

hongman 17-02-11 10:50 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Hi Susan.

I'll do the **** bit at the AR maybe.

yorkie_chris 18-02-11 09:22 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey (Post 2484636)
I don't think NWS stand are available any more.

I can't really see why a tapered adapters can't be used in the Abba stand for all bikes.

I think andybrad tried this and it was a bit dicey.

Terah 18-02-11 09:29 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
monkey, looks like your a** will be safe from hongman - phone number is dead and if you go to the front of the site http://www.n-w-s.com it says Site No Longer Available.

So, back to looking at Abba stands, or are there other alternatives?

hongman 18-02-11 09:34 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Well I am mildly disappointed!

AndyBrad 18-02-11 09:38 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
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its probably about 50% less stable than a proppor adaptor. the reason is no matter how much you try and tighten it into the swing arm it will not be 100% snug so it tends to rock a little when lifting. It does work and it works ok, ish but i wouldnt trust it on anyone elses bike. Bearing in mind im doing this on an uphill not flat surface. Would probably be alright ona garage floor.

I think half of the problem is ive fitted it to the cups of the standard fitting kit. If i can get some more makde that are "full size" then they may be better. but i cant be bothered atm.

AndyBrad 18-02-11 09:39 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terah (Post 2485079)
So, back to looking at Abba stands, or are there other alternatives?

do you need to get the front up? if not just get a paddock stand. especially if you live on the flat.

Terah 18-02-11 10:30 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2485089)
do you need to get the front up? if not just get a paddock stand. especially if you live on the flat.

Planning to do the fork seals. And paddock stands look much harder to use on your own.

yorkie_chris 18-02-11 10:33 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Nah they're fine to put on on your own. Abba is easier and more sturdy IMO.

AndyBrad 18-02-11 11:07 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
To be honest if your on the flat theres nothing wrong with a paddock stand. They can be a bit unsteady when lifting especially if your on a slope. The abba stand is a lot more stable and although expensive it will help lots.

If you can afford it get one, if not youll be fine with a paddock stand on the flat.

Luckypants 18-02-11 11:26 AM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
I have both paddock stand and ABBA stand. The paddock stand is quick to get the bike on and is fine for basic maintenance tasks. The paddock stand is ideal for cleaning, due to convenience. For more complex maintenance tasks, ABBA all the way, more stable and secure for when you are pulling on spanners. :D

Terah 18-02-11 03:47 PM

Re: Abba vs NWS stands
 
Thanks all. Abba stand ordered.


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