IOS (iphone) users views on Android?
 

It seems after reading a lot of articles on the net and talking to a few Apple users that they have odd idea's of just what android is.

So id like to know out of interest what your thoughts are, if you are an apple user or not, just so I can clear up some misconceptions. I know both IOS and Android well enough to draw up meaningful comparisons and ill try to be objective in anything I write.

So please, say what you think! (P.S. try to be objective, im only wanting to draw meaningful comparisons, not start a fan boi fight...)

I am an IOS man, I have owned many phones but not running android.

I would like to give one a try but if I'm honest, it would have to be amazing for me to do a permanent swap which I am 99% sure wouldn't be possible.

Android is also used on too many phones. As the iPhone is the only one with apples OS they retain their price amazingly well hence the reason I wouldn't swap aswell.

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Having been an iPhone user from the beginning, I've been through the fan boi stage and have now tired of the product.

There is no absolutely no advantage of iOS devices to comparable Android ones, like the Samsung Galaxy S II (which I will be getting just as soon as it becomes available).

Apple's closed system really is limiting potential now - they were market leaders (in that they were the first to bring a nicely packaged product to the mass market) - but now they are just starting to take the mickey with their latest dictatorship approach.

The droid family offers some really cool, but increasingly "essential" features like wireless media sync, larger screens and a proper browsing experience. These things are more important to me than a nicely boxed vanilla product. Shiny branding and supposed exclusivity is no longer good enough to out do the competition.

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I have an iPhone. I honestly don't have any views about android because I've never really used one.

Why do I have an iPhone? Because I got a good deal (knowing someone who works at the local O2 call centre has it's advantages). It does what I want. I don't care that it's 'locked down' - it's a bloody phone/music player/interweb browser.

Would I go for android when the time comes? If my mate can do the necessary on the deal and the handset fits the bill then yeah, why not.

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As per woz, that's all mine get's used for, Android what's that then, just want a phone to do the normal things with, never seen an android phone, what does android mean? it's a phone innit same as a fruit based product?.

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Funny, spent an hour discussing this with my Dad this afto...

Iphone hardware is sublime, but the OS is nowhere near as flexible as Android, don't like a particular aspect of iOS? Tough, Steve likes it and that means it's good enough for you... Purely from an OS point of view there's no reason to go Apple.

Perhaps when Jobs finally gets crucified, returns three days later and finally ascends to heaven like the true believers say Apple might put Android on their phones??;) Until then we choose...

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Careful what you wish for, he's at deaths door from cancer poor guy :smt051

I've got an Iphone but am not a techno-ignoramus. My friend just 'downgraded' to an android phone as he left his Iphone on the train (DUH) and can't afford to replace it. I asked him what it's like and he said 'I just want to smash it, I hate it'. You can talk about features all day but the experience is where it's at, a bit like bikes I suppose.

Having an iphone user that moved to android I have found it faster due to better h/w on handsets.

Also it does exactly what an iphone does but better, faster and with room for improvement without the need of a new phone.

Music, internet, phone, messaging, wireless sync of contacts, data, email.

Will get an iphone when they catch up with technology again

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Just came through on the RSS

Android 3.0 features coming "to all phones" - just a "matter of time"

LINKY

edit: That's all existing android phones for the easily misled...

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For your average user yes, for a tech user no, you can do anything your imagination, skills and knowledge are capable of the iphone is equally as flexible as android you just go to know how.
I don't agree that its right that you have to do this unlocking process to get what you want out of your device but it can be done.
I can honestly say though if it wasn't possible to unlock iOS devices I would never have purchased my ipad or iphones and defiantly would of chosen android.
So I can see why a lot of people prefer android.
Android is a good OS there is no doubt but personally I think iOS is a lot smoother/stable(but they did feckup big time with iOS4 on the 3g) combined with the slick hardware and ready available content its a winner for me, plus being able to unlock/hack is something I actually enjoy doing and is why I have chosen iphones and the ipad over other available devices.
Untill I have something in my hands that's better I don't think i will be changing. But I am going to try persuade work to get me the play station phone :)
Im currently using an HTC trophy running Microsoft's mobile 7 as my work phone see the thread in IB this phone is more limited and restricted than an iphone will ever be.

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IOS is great, sure JunOS has its advantages, but I almost guarantee that without IOS, most of us wouldn't be posting on here.

When it comes to BGP, ISIS, QoS for VoIP, then IOS is well up to the task.

Oh you meant iOS, sorry, not interested.

As for the "For your average user yes, for a tech user no" there are more of the former than the latter.

I'm a tech user, but, having done tech all day, and sometimes all night, I just want it to do what I want it to do. Not have to "make" it do it through some convoluted hack.

Sure my Android phone IS rooted, but there is nothing I do on a day to day basis that needs this, I only did it out of curiosity.

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and what do you think ios cant do without jailbreak ? apart from the need of itunes,themes + flash ?

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What phone? If we use the comparison you brought up, bikes. If he has a cheap bike and is comparing it to a expensive one, what do you expect, it's like comparing a cbr 125 to a fireblade, get an r1 or better then compare.

Hardware wise Android has spectrum to suit wallets. I had my desire before the iphone4 came out, spec wise my phone is still on par with it. Thing is there are several phones far superior to both mine and the iPhone 4. The new Samsung and LG phones I seen are mad.

I started this thread to explain this sort of thing. I'm sure with a high end android phone and an open mind he would have no problem with Android and quite probably come to like the extra freedoms that are offered. Problem is most people arnt so open minded. It's a shame.

Some interesting conversation going on here. Im with the people on restrictions, that's the reason I prefer Android over ios.

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I'm on an iPhone.
I stayed away from them for years and finally gave in when I was given one for free (well two for free but that's vodas balls up :) ).
I've not used android but am interested in the galaxy 2 simply as it would be a new toy.
The iPhone does everything I need from a mobile and much more.
I don't notice the "restrictions" as afterall, it's just a mobile phone.

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The main restriction that I would notice would be the Itunes chaining, I quite often just pull files off of random computers. Blue tooth sending, just little things like that.

I think the Galaxy S2 will be my next phone, it looks like a monster, big battery, powerful but power friendly CPU, and big vibrant screen (those Amoled screens are just wow! the colours are amazing).

If you dont mind all that then that is cool.

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I hope its a big big improvement on the last Galaxy ! as that was an awful device.

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Disclaimer: I have been enjoying alcohol responsibly.

No you didn't. Over recent months you have been very vocal in your dislike of fruit based products (almost as vocal as Soulkiss). You started this thread for no reason other than to reiterate those views (because we haven't had an iThread for a while).

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As a non-smart phone owner (apple/droid or other), what are the basic pro/cons for a SIMPLE user? Thinking of getting something....but not sure what.

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both will do the same from a simple user only apple requires i-tunes for syncing, if you got half a brain cell you wont find it that hard ;)
The iphone will hold its value and be worth more than half what it costs new after 18 months, android will be worth half what its costs new within a month or two.
that's about it :D

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Yes, your right im not a fan of their policies... This was started to try and guage any misconceptions mostly. There are a lot of people who I talk to who blindly repeat "but my iphone is pretty" or "android is hard to use", without much experience to back it up with.

Id say android, as thats the one that I enjoy using most... either would do you fine.

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Tim, honestly both will do exactly what you want them to do if all you want is mp3,mobile, email and browsing etc.

Ones boxed by apple and the others made by someone else.

Simple as that.

I dont see a problem with using itunes, its a case of "plug it into the pc and drag and drop" how is that hard?

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Hold on, i thought apple products were crap, the truth will out eh :rolleyes: Tim, i have an iphone 3gs had a 3g befor the center button on the 3g got sticky, oo er mrs, and so got upgraded have now had them for about 2.5 years, have not upgraded to the 4g as have not seen the need, currently paying 15 quid a month, and don't really want to go back to 35-40 quid a month unless the phone was super duper, and the 4 isn't much differant to the 3gs, apart from looks imo.
The answer is for you to go into the shop and try the differant types out, but the iphone is so easy to use it's simples and so smooth, blows away any previouse phone i have had (not had an android yet). i guess most peeps would say itunes is the biggest bug bear, but once you have got a few gigs of music on it it's not like it's something you use every day or even every week, so not much of a problem to me, all in all, it does what it does brilliantly, that's why it's the no1 phone, yours sincerely, mr jobs :mrgreen:

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See iTunes is an insidious PoS that I wont have on my machine.

Admittedly its been a while since I went anywhere near it, but hearing stories from friends about how they plugged their iPod into a friends machine and it wiped all their stuff off, or how iTunes kept trying to make itself the default media player etc, well sorry that sounds more like malware than anything else.

I'm happy with my device that will just plug into a USB slot and "Just Work".

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I did, last month...

Back to back the Desire HD isn't as nice to look at but blows iOS out of the water. Perhaps apple's attempt is slightly more polished to the point of being daft (do I really need the icons to do a m.j fox impression???) but Android is much better overall.

The only reason developers worked so hard on apple apps is because iOS had the largest market share. Now that Android has overtaken iOS developers will begin to question why they're spending their time writing apps that are going to be refused, removed, redacted by apple and get shafted for the privilege when they could just write them for an open system that actually allows users to decide what they do and don't want on their phones...

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Am I easily misled? That Dan Morrill tweet read as if not all phones can have version 3.0, but all that can will run any version of android application (backwards compatible)

The full tweet from Dan Morrill, Android Open Source & Compatibility Tech Lead, reads: "Honeycomb runs all existing Android apps; all the APIs & features will come to phones in some form. Just a matter of time."

While we probably won't see all Honeycomb's features make it to all phones – the Sony Ericsson X10, for example, isn't getting any more Android OS updates – most recent Android handsets should see the upgrades from the tablet-tastic OS.

So I am left wondering if I will be able to officially load it onto my Hero when it arrives, or if I will even be able to load it via a custom rom as I have done with 2.2 froyo...

Just for the record I am another happy Android user I would never go the way of the iPhone, it's too expensive and restrictive for my liking, I don't use Windows or MacOS either though...

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No, I didn't read it like that either, hence the qualifier "features" rather than simply stating 3.0 will come to all phones:cool:

Would be nice to get it though, DHD is recent enough and should have the balls to run it

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:cool:

I would love a Desire HD, great specs etc...I am just waiting for my Hero is be absolutely useless with new versions of the OS...so far though it is just hanging on :) That's why I'll stay in their Android camp, I am still using a phone bought when it was first released in 2009

edit: still waiting for the dual cpu qualcomm hardware though, dual 1.5GHz [-o<

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Argh, don't even start, I just went with a 24month contract, so unless the iPhone 5 actually gives you blow jobs or something I'll be using it for a while

Not that that's a bad thing given it's the better phone...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/Coolface.jpg

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No no. The hardware is ok. Though its main feature seems to be its "pretty". But I don't care about that, function over form for me. So for me Android, and I don't care if the desire isn't so "pretty".

I do work with someone who says Android won't beat ios because it doesn't have the features and is too hard to use. I have a feeling he has never used one, I know this because he didn't know you use the menu key for options...

So this is to see how many others have that view. And yes I have used ios, a fair bit, my friends iPhone, ipods and all that so I can draw up fair comparisons.

The way I see it. Android advantages: menu key, less space wasted on screen. More customisable. No Itunes. More hardware choice. WiFi hotspot. Widgets. Live wallpaper. Etc etc.

Ios: more games, though this is likely temp now Android is so popular, and Android also has emulators. "pretty". Hmmm.

My view on Apple. Rip off merchants that are good at advertising... so good they convince people that everything they do is original...

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Andorid = better out the box for most people
iOS = Better overall after some tweaking ;)

That's my view on the phones the tablets are different story android on tablets doest have a patch on iOS I look forward to honeycomb though.

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so if i were to flog my 3gs for something stupid like £275, what would be the best android phone to get, that just works without having to fiddle with it, i did jaibreak mine once, but didn't have a clue what you were meant to do after that, so put it back to standard. The main reasons i got the iphone were cos at the time it was the only phone that had proper internet on it instead of that windows mobile internet crap thing lol, and to use it as a music player, thta's why i got the 16 gig version, and of course cos it looks good, especially when i'm using it ;)

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I like my Desire HD, lots of people rate the original Desire and Galaxy from Samsung

Depends what features you're looking for...

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Don't if its doing what you need it to then you got no need to swap, the things you have to fiddle are things that android peeps say the iphone cant do eg, tethering , emulators , customisation/ live wallpaper .
If none of that bothers you then stick with your phone.

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quick question for you android users, can you control android phones with vnc running on a pc ?

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yeah, will probably keep it till the next big thing comes out tbh, any other mobile would see my monthly payment at least double, so would have to be twice as good as the 3gs, might have to wait a while ;)

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And another recent Android convert here. Having used Windows Mobile 6.x for over 3 years now, I made the move to Android a few weeks ago.

Thoughts so far? It's brilliant, and you can pretty much pay as much as you want to use it. Right now you can spend £100 for a decent phone or £500 for top of the range hardware, and unless you're going to run heavy games on it, you'll be just fine. I got the portuguese equivalent to the Orange San Francisco, and for the price (a little over £100) I have 480x800 screen, GPS (with AGPS), digital compass, accelerometer, proximity sensor, 512 MB of ram, and can use SD cards up to 32 GB. The only thing where you can see it's not a top phone is the CPU (600 MHz), but to be honest, unless I'm running games, I couldn't care much less, especially at this price point.

Sure, the iPhone 4 is prettier (I honestly think it's the best looking phone on the market right now), but I'm not willing to pay over £500 for one or be tied to an expensive monthly contract just to have on in my pocket. I also hate the iTunes dependency for file transfer. I do use iTunes as library organiser but out of option and as a reminiscence of my MacOS days, not because I have to. I just love the fact that I can get up to any computer with my phone, plug it in (with a non-proprietary, standard micro USB cable, btw) and just transfer files without any configuration or software installation whatsoever.

And btw, if Apple were so sure of their market position and superiority, there might not be rumours of a mini iPhone running around right now... Apple were good once. Then they were brilliant. And then they started relying on design and ease of use / idiot proof features to get people to buy their stuff...

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Perhaps they'll also release a large version of the iphone, without any phone features, for a vastly inflated price...

Oh...

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that iphone nano is a rumour that's already been flattened days ago.

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shouldn't you be on a KTM site somewhere ;)

At least apple actually made the os a little different and have manny native tablet apps, lol android just stuck the core phone os on a tablet with pis$ all native content.

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