want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

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Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

bout time too.

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

I can think of 12 kids that have died recently in my area (last 2 years)... None were high performance cars, one was a 1.6 206, another was a 1.0 106 and the other a Saxo... All of them crashed with 4 in the car and after 10 o clock at night, and none will doubt they were showing off to their mates.

Cars are not the problem attitude and stupidity is. Banning new drivers from carrying passengers after 6pm would have a much bigger impact.

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

Yep we've had a few here as well G, saxo was one of the ones I remember most recently.
I've always said cars should be like bikes, a set limit on bhp for 2 years, top speed limited to 70 mph etc.

Agree passengers after 6pm might help as well, enforcement is the problem though, police already over stretched.

Insurance on fast cars for young people is what normally stops kids getting these cars.

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

i was about to post the same as G and specialpleb..... just go to the local KFC, macdonalds, halfords and looks at the nobjocks sat outside, their cars couldn't push the 15 secs 0-60 yet they are the ones in question

i ran a quote on mattSV's turbo wagon when he was selling it and it came up over 2 1/2 grand with 3 years NCB. could afford it but that price was enough to put me off, if they are stupid enough to pay that to insure a care then i say let then, they'll plant it up a tree and cleanse the gene pool :smt080

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

all well and good..

apart from one bit.. "raising the minimum age of driver" so how are the 17,18 + age supposed to get to work college ect ? because public transport fails, not every one want to ride a moped or bike not every one lives near or in range to use other forms of transport ? so those people then add to the teens that have no job or no further education Etc so on so forth

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

Dan, thats a bolox reason mate, when i first started college and work placement, i was working in edgbaston, the other side of the city for me, 3 buses and 1 hour, 20 mins worth of travelling for me every day there and back.
I couldnt afford a bike or car back then, i coped as a lot of others did, so thats a lame excuse.
There is more money around nowadays with parents helping much more than in my early years as well.

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

im talking more about the people in the sticks not in the city

case and point, mate lives in Yorkshire middle of no where, drives to Silverstone every week stoppe's in B&B hes 17 if the age was higher how is he supposed to get from his home (farm) to silverston he has no proper link to any where without relying on his parents to get him there then he would have to get from Northampton to Silverstone

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

Ah bolox to them, they can walk ;)
All they do is become farmers anyway.

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

lol see above

grumpy old fart

ta bit

Re: want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young
 

On the fence about passengers, would like to know the opinion of the police of how in the name of all that is holy could they police that? Its also tars all us young people with the same brush, punishing those who need/are sensible just because you're local ***** in a suuped up corsa is being a tosser.

I don't agree with raising the minimum age, cant see the difference between 17 and maybe a few years older, the age debate has been done to death with the bike limit at '21', when alot of people who are unfortunately injuring themselves are not young.

I have had a few mates killed, been in a smash myself. Not good one bit.

I think it's the attitude more than any other factor, insurance 9/10 times makes the decision on what car you get, most crashes my way are rural where the driver has been going too fast for the conditions or just lost control. Don't need a fast car to cause/be involved in a fatal/serious smash.

Since I had a smash, I hit another car, he made a claim against me, i didn't claim for my car, now I cannot get any insurance on ANY car.

19 y/o, clean license, 1.0L or less, high mileage, cost >500, and the lowest quote I can get TPO is £2400.

If we make one silly mistake, insurance makes the choice for us then.