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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-inhumane.html

An intresting part of Sharia law.

A man in Iran who threw acid over someone who rejected his advances and left her blind, is to have 5 drops of acid put in each of his eyes (That will blind him), under "retributive justice" a part of sharia law.

It was supposed to be on Saturday, but has been postponed due to international pressure, but the woman is offering to carry out the blinding herself and is likely to go ahead behind close doors at some point in the future.



For all the international opposition and out cry, I'm not really sure, I am against the punishment, as that is the law of the land in which he lived, he would have know that to be he consequences and also it is the wish of his victim, whose life he hus ruined.

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Blimey. However, there arent many shoplifters in Isreal.

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as a Christian I cannot see what peace it will bring her, and to me it is sensless, to me a lifetime of being forced to help those who are blind would be more appropriate.

but understandably she feels it is right..

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Their country, their law... just don't try to bring that sort of thing over here please.

I can't agree or disagree because he knew what the punishment could be with the law as it stands in Iran.

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That's actually pretty interesting and no doubt open to endless debate. I'm kind of sitting on the fence for this one.
I can see why they think it's right to do to him as what he did to her, especially as it was just because she wouldn't let him hit on her basically... what he did was exceedingly harsh and deserves an extreme punishment as he has definitely ruined her life.
At the same time I can see the same side as numbers man & realise that it isn't actually going to achieve much. It'll just then be another blind person, who feels exceedingly bitter and sorry for himself. Will most likely never be a productive citizen for the rest of his time alive.

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this is going to hurt - but I'm with Lozzo ( ouch)

that's their law and its their country therefore they are the one that should hand out justice in the way that they see fit. It may not fit with our ideas but who are we to intervene in the running of their justice system.

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I suppose the 'international pressure' is rightful in expressing their opinions but they should leave it there. If they want to get on with it, let them. It's not harming us in anyway so lets just make it known we don't agree and then let it be. Obviously this wouldn't be my view on EVERYTHING but in this instance is it.

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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - Gandhi, apparently.

Pun fully intended.

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Humanity is horrible sometimes. I was reading the amusing list of weird things people have asked for as their last meals on Wikipedia, and then foolishly clicked the link in the crime n' punishment category to the article on 'slow slicing'. DO NOT READ THAT. Yaaaarrghhhagakjfakljfkjasfkjasf!

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You can't say that and expect people not to read it!

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went and read it out of morbid curiosity...

we as humans are some times so inhumane its kinda hypocritical...

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interesting to read the fact behind death of a thousand cuts

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Like when countries stone women for infidelity?

I'd like to say blind the basterd that did it to the girl, but it's a big jump from the saying to the doing. Lock him up, throw away the key. There have been acid attacks here in the UK and so called honour killings, it's so low it unspeakable. All cowardly, all scum, poor girl.

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That depend...

How much oil do they have?

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+1 ^ This

Q, I dont like it - Im scared.

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such cynicism from the hirsute one! :D

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Wise words from my grandad "never trust a man who has millions in the bank but always wears flip-flops and a sheet"

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Harsh

I have a very balanced view on life and the world as we know it. I am just extremely intolerant of anyone and anything that upsets that balance

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Yeah... it's not 'their' oil, it's just under their sand.

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i'm not a christian soooo, if a person is so nasty that they would intentionally throw acid in someone's eyes then they deserve all that they get.

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I still say the same for that case too. Yes it was a miscarriage of justice but media reporting is very one sided so unles we were there i don't believe in judging.
Its their country and we have been involved into many disputes where western countries have stuck there noses in. Soon as it comes over here as part of our justice then I'll start.

Yeah saying and doing is a big jump which is why america have so many on death row and why although we have life sentances it never is life. We need to sort out our own justice system first to deal with the crime that are committed here before launching an attacj on some one else justice system.

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Fair enough your point of view, I just can't turn a blind eye to that type of thing myself though.

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Don't get me wrong I don't like the idea of it just have to appreciate it someone else way of dealing with it

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Shoot them. Simple, cheap, effective.

Honour killings over here, I'd like to say catapult them into the middle east somewhere and shout "did you just call allah a c*nt?"... but that would be complex, so shoot them as well.

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Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2540224) Wise words from my grandad "never trust a man who has millions in the bank but always wears flip-flops and a sheet"

He's just "keepin’ it real, yo"

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Originally Posted by Quedos (Post 2540166) this is going to hurt - but I'm with Lozzo ( ouch)

Hmmm. I've spoken to a few Iranian people about their country. The people of Iran generally seem to be a modern, progressive / intelligent demographic... very 'clued up' and switched on.

Apparently the vast, vast majority of the younger population are terrified and disgusted by their governments stone-age ruling (which this revenge-based acid justice is an example of), consistent human rights violations and general oppression, so as far as I'm concerned the "oh leave them to it, it's just their culture and they don't know any different" argument is ignorant.


Whether or not some western force should wade in to 'sort it out' somehow is a separate and very technical debate, but it's a huge problem and lots of people suffer as a result.

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No different to kill and be killed. Blind and get blinded. It essentially boils down to the capital punishment debate, but we know a lot of countries on this side of the world that are ok with that.

If someone chopped off your balls wouldn't you wanna chop of theirs back? Better person than I am if you can forgive.

Ultimately though much worse stuff happen in Iran than this, at least this is kind of fair. It's not gona bring the poor girls sight back but at least he'll know what it felt like. That'd be enough for me if I was the victim.

All good and well saying what your feelings towards the criminal would be if it happened to you, but until you get acid poured onto your eye you're just speculating.

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Actually we gave up behaving like mediaeval savages a few years ago.Some other places havnt got there yet which is what makes us better than them.

Unashamed elitism I know,but true

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This IMO is why victims shouldn't have a part in justice, revenge twists things. In this case against the good of everyone, because what's going to happen to the now blinded bloke?

For the greater good, the man's clearly a f*cknut, shoot him.

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I agree, victims shouldnt. Not to say the government can't do it on their behalf though.

Sometimes shooting is too easy a punishment for the criminal. Makes it less messy agreed.

Obvious example, Bin Laden got off lightly. An example that can be applied to endless other criminals.

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yes we are that far ahead of them we behave like bullies instead :D

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Better than the savages but not perfect yet.;)

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Not sure tooth for a tooth is the right punishment, but I agree with YC to an extent, if somebody's a nut job, take them out of circulation.

You should get two chances at punishment and reform, on the third time you are convicted of any crime, you get a lethal injection. Your only going to spend your life making others lives a misery, and costing the government money to keep you in jail, and producing offspring who follow in your footsteps, so you might as well just be removed from the population altogether. Most people with 9 points on their license, drive at the speed limit, if they don't they get banned. Maybe they could do the same, rack up 50 criminality points, and you get put down.

Viney said at the beginning, there aren't many thieves in Israel. Not sure what that's got to do with Iran, but I agree with the sentiment. There'd be less thieves here if you got more than a slap on the wrist.

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hey you can now go and pour acid in someone eyes.....dont worry cos the western goverments wont let it happen to you..:smt104
i like these western goverments..