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When I've been out in the wet recently I've been getting pretty soaked, particularly my gut/chest. I'd assumed it was just a poor zip on the jacket but Kilted Ginger pointed out that it was more likely coming up my trousers and under my jacket. Any sensible and inexpensive suggestions on how to stop this?

And do hand guards make much difference?

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A waterproof over suit is probably cheapest but they're a faff to get on and off, the cheap ones don't work well either. Hand guards are great for keeping gloves/hands warm/dry, nice psychological help for filtering too as they touch car mirrors first instead of your levers/fingers.

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I got soaked on the AR from about my belly-button down, and the only thing I had on that didn't leak was my jacket. KG's spot on re. the rising damp, or certainly that was the case for me at the weekend.

Olly's (Orose) textile suit was made from the same Goretex Pro Shell stuff as my jacket, and as far as I'm aware he was bone dry underneat that - it's maybe just as simple as investing in some top-drawer textiles I'm afraid?

PS - Weegieblue was selling a pair of the trousers to match my jacket, but they're way too long for my stumpy legs - might well fit you though and he was doing them for a fairly awesome price!

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Keep your eyes out for Lidl motorbike rain suits. They work fine and are normally around £15.

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Terah, what gear do you currently have? is it marked as waterproof (gortex or another branding of sorts)
I personally like/recommend HG's Sheltex, it has always kept me warm and dry. I have never been too hot in summer conditions either.

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Don't go out when its raining...

You're welcome :cool:

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I was wearing HG waterproofs over my leathers for the AR.

So far as I can tell, if I pull the trousers right up and the jacket down they will keep the water out. If I just throw them on in a hurry, they don't overlap enough and I get a wet navel.

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Waterproof oversuit gets my vote for summer rain. I wore my HG one piece oversuit over leathers at the AR on the weekend and was completely dry, even when the heavens opened on the M66. For when it's cold and wet you need to invest in good textiles IMO, my Spada textiles have kept me dry and warm in some fairly extreme Welsh weather.

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same here. i was completely dry underneath it was my gloves and my left boot that got wet threw.

i'm still on the search for true waterproof gloves and i think i'll invest in a pair of goretex socks.

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Like the others I'd recommend a one piece oversuit.

The top half of me was dry wearing my HG Gortex jacket, but my bottom half was a bit damp in places, although my suit was bought 2nd hand.

The one thing I didn't bring was my one piece suit, otherwise I'm pretty sure I would have been completely dry. It came top in Ride mags one piece suits test and only cost £29!

Gloves were soaked through on the AR ride, as were my 'Waterproof' boots. But I was wearing my 'Sealskins' waterproof socks and I'm glad I was because my feet were dry

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Halvarssons gloves - definitely need re-treated, and/or hand guards
TCX S-Zero WP boots - only let in a tiny bit at the gear lever pad when it's really bad
Held Askido jacket - I think would be fine if I could stop the water running up under it
Richa Monsoon trousers - got a bit wet at the crotch but this could be the same issue as the jacket with water running up between the two.

I'm thinking for next year I'll get a decent set of leathers and then a cheap waterproof suit but it would be nice to find a solution for the textiles and it seems a bit odd to wear a rain suit over them.

I live in Scotland.

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Which is why I didn't take my 1 piece suit, I thought my Goretex suit would be fine.

My boots got wet from the rain going up the bottom of the trousers and the crotch seems to be a weak point.

What puzzles me, is that when I stopped biking I had a Rukka 2 piece suit, which was made from a PVC material, which never ever let the rain in and nor did my leather Sidi boots (so long as I'd treated them regularly)

But Rukka don't make them anymore, why I don't know, because everyone had them. They just made ridiculously expensive texile suits now :confused:

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Move somewhere sunny...

God do I have to think of everything ;)

On a less **** takey note, try what Keith and Bibio have suggested. I know you end up looking like Simon Cowell but seems to work for me. I've got RST Raptor jacket and Razor trousers (about the same price range as your gear) that I wore at the GM. Was bone dry even leaving on the sunday when it was bombing it down

Still, having a slightly wet stomach is preferable to wearing waterproofs over kevlar jeans, having a pool of water collecting nicely in your crotch and you getting off looking like you've ****ed yourself. Found this out to my cost on a tour of Scotland no less :)

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Firstly with regard to boots--go to HALFORDS and buy a tin of normal silicone spray,spray your boots,let dry and spray again.Once they have thoroughly dried after the second spray polish them with whatever polish you use.This has kept my feet dry in atrocious conditions and several different make of boots.
Suits,well you get what you pay for,mine is Sympatex[Triumph] and apart from a tiny amount of water down the neck when I am not wearing a neckerchief I have NEVER been wet. I do not know if it is considered expensive at £550.Warm in the winter and cool in the summer with the removable lining and multiple zipped air vents in both jacket and trousers.

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if you commute day in day out in all weathers then decent goretex (expensiveness) textiles, alternatively leathers (best protection imo) + waterproof oversuit for when it rains (when you remember it!)

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Yup - totally dry, and the first two recees were worse than the actual rideout. Only thing I had to worry about was dry gloves to wear, but the pro-shell textiles and A* WP series boots did what they were supposed to.

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Water could have been coming up your waist, or it could have been that your storm flaps on the front of your jacket, either weren't properly folded before they were fastened, or they plain don't work.

A good overlap between jacket and trousers is essential, for textiles. I'm not sure any 'sports' jacket is going to keep you dry in really wet weather, sometimes the connecting zip is less than an inch from the bottom of the jacket. You need a touring jacket which comes down over your hips to the top of your legs & bum. This picture is in 40 degrees of heat in Mexico. It was a 3 in 1 touring jacket with removable waterproof and quilted liners. The advantage of a removable goretex type liner, is that the manufacturer doesn't have to try and waterproof stuff like ventilation zips and they are not a weak area for letting in water. The waterproof membrane is all one piece, and it hasn't been bonded to the back of another fabric. The outer jacket is designed to wet through, the bad bit of that though is wet pockets (use a resealable plastic bag for mobile phone & wallet). It also means you can have as many ventilation zips in the jacket as you like, hence being able to wear it in 40 degrees heat so long as you keep moving. I also wore this jacket through Scottish winters at minus temperatures.

Jackets like this are marketed as "Adventure" jackets now so a lot of them are unfortunately in Ewan McBoorman colour schemes.

Spada and HG are both good brands for the money.

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One piece oversuit is good, but because they are so flimsy you need to make sure the storm flaps on the zips are lying flat and properly folded, sealed, before you do up the velcro. The suit being so thin & able to flex & fold so easily, means they don't always fall straight. Also do up the neck of the suit properly. No point if water is dripping off your lid and down the collar. In a one piece oversuit is leaking anywhere, you soon end up sitting in a puddle. In summer I find myself as wet with sweat, as I would have been without the suit, like wearing a bin bag.

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Just noticed you have a Held Askido, which is quite a long jacket. I'd be surprised if it's coming it at the waist TBH, as it's the wind that blows it up there and a long jacket stops that wind pressure before it gets to the connecting zip and there's nothing to propel the water upwards. Maybe your storm flap leaks?

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I have a pair of really really comfy leather gloves ( Gerricke PSX ) that I have had for years, and cant bear to be without them ... they are supposed to be 'goretex' but now appear to lost their 'gore' .. however, if caught out in the rain, I wear either a pair of those medicallatex gloves or even thosecheap clear diesel gloves that you can pick up at petrol stations under my leather gloves --- warm toasty DRY hands :)

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Halvarssons/ Joffama Textiles are very good!

At AR only had the 'wet gut' and thats because mine are too large for me now (lost around 4" off my waist since 2009. I've been down the A1 in winter at 70 with the jacket liner in and a jumper underneath and been too hot. I've never needed the trouser liners in 2 years.

The Halvarssons Dryway leather gloves lasted a good 70 miles before coming totally saturated. I've not found a totally waterproof set of gloves yet.

Boots wise, my Targa Zeniths have only let water in very recently in the left boot (my boots get abused as walk around in them a lot) and its the zip overlaps are open

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Pretty sure it's the waist. With just a t-shirt on (tucked into trousers), was wet up to chest. Chucked a fleece on (over trousers) and when I stopped next the bit of fleece under the jacket/trousers overlap was absolutely sodden, but I was dry from waist up.

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It's your belly that will get wet if your storm flap is leaking, because it's designed to make the water that gets in past your press studs run down the inside of the outer flap, but not let it get through to the zip. If it is only half working, or if the storm flap is not folded properly, it will run down to an extent, keeping your neck and chest dry, but get through to the zip lower down, or it could be completely useless and just leak the whole way up.

It could be getting in at the bottom, maybe you need a tighter fit? Maybe it's just a crap jacket? You'll not get much longer than the jacket you have, but you can get two piece textiles which are completely waterproof, so a one piece oversuit is not the only answer.

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Was it Spada kit that Tiger Al had on for that Aviemore run we all did a couple of years ago Col.? I remember at the time being rather impressed at how well his kit had held out against the weather of that run.

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Yes, it was Spada kit, and he was the only one to stay dry after 6 hours of Scotlands finest sideways rain! My jacket gave in after 3-4 hours.

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Cool, lots of things to try. Just hope it pees it down this weekend :)

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I think he has the same jacket and pants as me, Spada Podium pants and Circuit jacket, top kit. Previous Spada jacket still serviceable and rain proof even after an off.

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Seems Spada is the way to go. As my kit was 2nd hand, perhaps I'll treat myself over the winter to some new kit