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L3nny 27-12-11 02:56 PM

RAM Upgrade question
 
I want to upgrade the RAM in my Samsung N510 netbook. Below is a pic of the current module that is in there.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...0-31084054.jpg

Would this fit?

http://www.ebuyer.com/191217-corsair...o4gx3m1a1333c9

Or will I need to get this because it's the same speed?

http://www.ebuyer.com/164768-corsair...m-vs4gsds800d2

Thanks :cool:

Also does anyone know of any good deals on Hard Drives 500gb+

Sudoxe 27-12-11 03:02 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
I would go to http://www.crucial.com/uk/ for the memory, rather than ebuyer. You should be able to select the make/model and it will tell you exactly what you can put in the machine.

You won't find any good deals on hard disks at the moment, due to the floods in Thailand. It may be cheaper to buy a USB external disk and take the physical drive out of that, as the prices on them seem to have been more stable recently. Prices on the standalone drives has gone up more due to there being more demand and less supply.

Dan

mattb200 27-12-11 04:25 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
can recommend crucial as well, looking on the site though its says the max amount of RAM you can install is 2GB. might be something worth looking into before you buy the 4GB in you links above:
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/list...l=N510&Cat=RAM

maviczap 27-12-11 05:15 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
2Tb Western digital external HDD £99 at Maplins, its cheaper than the 1TB model!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...ht_2508wt_1344

TSM 27-12-11 05:53 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641213)

No its DDR3 and you have DDR2

Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641213)
Or will I need to get this because it's the same speed?

http://www.ebuyer.com/164768-corsair...m-vs4gsds800d2

Cant gurantee but it should be fine, ususaly you can go for the same or faster speed than what you have but specs go further to CAS times and memory layouts that are allowed by the bios in the computer.

As Sudoxe said just go to crucial website as they give 100% gurantee if you choose though using the memory selector for you computer type

L3nny 27-12-11 05:56 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Thanks for the input. Looks like I can only upgrade to 2gb. I thought RAM was backwards compatible, you just wont get the faster speeds cause you wont be able to select them in the BIOS.

maviczap, cracking price for a 2TB hard drive but wouldn't that be a 3.5 desktop drive in that enclosure?

TSM 27-12-11 06:04 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641259)
Thanks for the input. Looks like I can only upgrade to 2gb. I thought RAM was backwards compatible, you just wont get the faster speeds cause you wont be able to select them in the BIOS.

Very much depends on what the bios allows as its a laptop you wont have much to fiddle with and it will take the settings that are specified on the memory. Laptops are much more picky about memory than desktops.
Somtimes you can have mismatched speeds and the system will just use lowest speed that you have installed.
Memory is rated UpTo a certian speed, this spec is then written to a chip on the memory module and used by the bios to set all the params as required.

Its all a tricky business.

I checked the N510 can support up to 4GB of ram but only in a single chip as it only has one slot, btw no point installing a x64 OS as after 256Mb thats taken for your graphics you are on the limit for a 32bit OS realy so no need to put an overhead into your system.

https://www.google.com/url?url=http:...ed=0CEUQygQwAQ
http://www.memory-up.com/memory/Sams...4GB667MHz.html

maviczap 27-12-11 06:04 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Yep, it'll be a 3.5 HDD, but as sudoxe said there is a worldwide shortage of HDD's because of the floods in Thailand, which have wrecked the worlds HDD factories, so don't expect to see any cheap internal laptop HDD's for ages.

TSM 27-12-11 06:06 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Look at an SSD, you can pick up a 120G for abt £130 (OZC Agility 3 or Corsair Force 3 etc) and will make the system fly, i just put a 240G into my laptop and its speedy but yours is a budget system so not sure how much extra gain you will see.

L3nny 27-12-11 06:16 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Thanks. I know it's not the fastest system in the world but that's not the point of a netbook, I carry it around with me all the time and I love it but it can get a little frustrating when you have more than one program running at the time or you are trying to play a flash game, sometimes it can grind along a bit.

I want a larger hard drive so I can fit HD films on it, its currently got a 140gb drive and it fills up all the time. Not sure hoe much difference the RAM and hard drive will make with regards to speed as the single core CPU is a bottleneck.

maviczap 27-12-11 06:59 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
SSD are much faster and don't need defragging from what I've read, plus no platters to break

What program are you using to rip or covert files? Are you watching them on the netbook or hooking a cable up to a bigger screen?

If its just the netbook, then you can make the file size quite small and I use this to rip DVD's to a portable HDD.

I've got about 400 on a 2tb HDD. Usually file size is around 1Gb from a 4.4 gb DVD with no appreciable loss in quality on a big screen.

You could compress the file size even smaller if you're just watching on the netbook

http://www.winxdvd.com/dvd-ripper-platinum/

Its worth paying for the full version.

L3nny 28-12-11 04:01 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
I use the netbook on a bigger screen so like to keep the quality quite high.

Back to the original question though. Do I definitely need to get the more expensive but slower DDR2?

grimey121uk 28-12-11 04:06 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641510)
I use the netbook on a bigger screen so like to keep the quality quite high.

Back to the original question though. Do I definitely need to get the more expensive but slower DDR2?

Yep, ddr2 and 3 are not backwards compatible, they each use their own slot/voltages etc

What OS are you using, I had a netbook with XP and upgraded it to 2gig ram and it made no differance what so ever, it rarely used more then 700meg of ram under XP when multitasking so it looked like the CPU was the limiting factor.
If your using 7 started I would imagine you would see a performance advantage by increasing your memory

maviczap 28-12-11 04:08 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641510)
I use the netbook on a bigger screen so like to keep the quality quite high.

You can alter the quality to suit you, even ripped DVD's at just over 1gb are still high quality on my 40 in screen

L3nny 28-12-11 04:13 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
I am using Windows 7.

TBH I am not sure upgrading the RAM will give me much advantage but for £15 I was willing to take a punt. At £50 I prob wont bother.

Another option I have seen on other forums is to use readyboost with an SD card I have an 8gb one in my camera so I will see if that helps at all.

I will have a look at that ripping software cause mine are all around 4gb

grimey121uk 28-12-11 04:16 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641517)
I am using Windows 7.

TBH I am not sure upgrading the RAM will give me much advantage but for £15 I was willing to take a punt. At £50 I prob wont bother.

Another option I have seen on other forums is to use readyboost with an SD card I have an 8gb one in my camera so I will see if that helps at all.

I will have a look at that ripping software cause mine are all around 4gb

I think you will see a decent improvment on windows 7, going to 2gig ram

£18.77
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-c...d-cas-5-5-5-18

TSM 29-12-11 08:27 PM

Re: RAM Upgrade question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3nny (Post 2641517)
readyboost with an SD card

not worth it unless you use SDHC and its realy fast plus the SD controller is fast, the card life is going to be fairly short too, most peeps dont use readyboost it comes from vista days when the OS thrashed the disks


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