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shonadoll 11-02-12 04:41 PM

Hein gericke
 
Apparently they're in administration, saw on another forum. Worth investigating if you're thinking of shopping online with them.

littleoldman2 11-02-12 04:45 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Just been on google nothing there ?.

m1tch_1987 11-02-12 04:47 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I heard that as well, but they have a few jobs open to apply for?

Specialone 11-02-12 04:48 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Aren't hg stores run like a franchise?

littleoldman2 11-02-12 04:57 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Mid Ulster bike forum says rumours are untrue. Bet this effects sales and jobs, terrible if its not true!.

AZZ3R 11-02-12 05:05 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
MCN would have made a big fuss if they had gone into admin.

Kilted Ginger 11-02-12 06:23 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
They do have a 30% sale on that they keep extending, so may be struggling.

andrewsmith 11-02-12 06:24 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
HG's stores are franchises of the HG brand.

Maybe one specific branch

Sabarius 11-02-12 06:43 PM

The 30% is only on own brand though which is where all there margin will be so no real loss to them I wouldn't have thought. It's no like they're loss leading with it or anything.

shonadoll 11-02-12 09:09 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
The thre forum I use, someone spoke to a manager regarding delivery problems of ordered stuff, and he admitted they were going into administration on the 13th- I know of a few people who have had money taken from accounts and no goods, just a heads up, in case this is true.

shonadoll 11-02-12 09:10 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZZ3R (Post 2661526)
MCN would have made a big fuss if they had gone into admin.

yeah MCN being the fount of all knowledge;)

EssexDave 11-02-12 10:35 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
The funny thing is - rumours like this can cripple a business.

Lack of consumer confidence is something we're all hearing a lot of recently as an impediment to economic recovery and if this is not true, it may well cause administration due to people taking business elsewhere.

metalangel 11-02-12 11:12 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EssexDave (Post 2661694)
The funny thing is - rumours like this can cripple a business.

Yup. All this talk of GAME having troubles made me tear the house apart for the gift card I got at Xmas, so I can go and spend it on anything before they go bust and the credit is worthless.

I suppose it depends on what you're buying. Someone who just needed gloves or a lid or something would still go to an HG shop up until the day they closed, ordering stuff would be different.

littleoldman2 11-02-12 11:16 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metalangel (Post 2661711)
Yup. All this talk of GAME having troubles made me tear the house apart for the gift card I got at Xmas, so I can go and spend it on anything before they go bust and the credit is worthless.

I suppose it depends on what you're buying. Someone who just needed gloves or a lid or something would still go to an HG shop up until the day they closed, ordering stuff would be different.

No I wouldn't I like somewhere to take goods back to if they fail. These rumours can be very harmful, if untrue.

metalangel 11-02-12 11:24 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2661712)
No I wouldn't I like somewhere to take goods back to if they fail. These rumours can be very harmful, if untrue.

That too! :smt105

DarrenSV650S 11-02-12 11:29 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
So shut up then and stop bumping the thread! derp

Holdup 11-02-12 11:40 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2661524)
rsumours

Quote:

Originally Posted by EssexDave (Post 2661694)
rumours

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2661712)
rumours

and thats all they are

Bluefish 11-02-12 11:47 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
If this is true, then I take it is as a reult of online competition, and the people that try in a shop and then buy online, well you know what, soon you will run out of places to do that, what you going to do then?

Tomor 12-02-12 12:01 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 2661725)
If this is true, then I take it is as a reult of online competition, and the people that try in a shop and then buy online, well you know what, soon you will run out of places to do that, what you going to do then?

+1

Lozzo 12-02-12 12:07 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Where's Amanda when you need her?

Bluefish 12-02-12 12:08 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2661730)
Where's Amanda when you need her?

Been a bit quiet lately :(

Runako 12-02-12 01:18 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I heard Hein Gericke is taking over George White and rebranding as Woolworth's ...

The statement above has as much value as this thread at the minute. As someone above pointed out, these are their current vacancies - Current Job Vacancies: Darlington, Doncaster, Hanger Lane, Leicester, London, Newry, Purley, Southampton & Welling

In November their statement of capital was £1.8 million. So unless they've been havin a right Charlie everyday they should be alright.

maxinc 12-02-12 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runako (Post 2661743)
Current Job Vacancies: Darlington, Doncaster, Hanger Lane, Leicester, London, Newry, Purley, Southampton & Welling

I hope the position in Welling is for a new store manager :) ... that would bring back some customers back.




Best,
Andy

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shonadoll 12-02-12 07:58 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Oh for goodness sakes- you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Was trying to give anyone a heads up,in case they spent money online and then lost it, hein gericke I'm so sorry if I've single handedly brought you to your knees!

I'd rather undermine consumer confidence than have someone lose a grand of their hard earned, if the rumours are true do you think the administrators will feel sorry for the public!?

The other forum I'm on, someone had had £300 odds taken from their account, online, then contacted a week later to say no goods in stock and they won't be getting anymore in. She investigated, and according to distance selling regs or something they cannot debit your account till goods at or nearly dispatched, she spent two days on the phone trying to sort this and hasn't had her refund yet. Smacks of bad practice to me, and since I wanted to give people a heads up I decided to share.

Love hein gericke myself most of my gear is from them, and will be sad if they close, but their behaviour has been weird recently.

Sir Trev 12-02-12 09:28 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EssexDave (Post 2661694)
The funny thing is - rumours like this can cripple a business.

Lack of consumer confidence is something we're all hearing a lot of recently as an impediment to economic recovery and if this is not true, it may well cause administration due to people taking business elsewhere.

In that case... Have you heard HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, Packard Bell, Fujitsu, Sony and Lenovo are all going into bankruptcy? :D

andrewsmith 12-02-12 09:59 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Trev (Post 2661762)
In that case... Have you heard HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, Packard Bell, Fujitsu, Sony and Lenovo are all going into bankruptcy? :D

and mesh is buying dell ;)

Bluepete 12-02-12 12:06 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsmith (Post 2661770)
and mesh is buying dell ;)


I liked her last album, potty mouth though!

Pete ;)

ogden 12-02-12 01:14 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shonadoll (Post 2661755)
Oh for goodness sakes- you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Was trying to give anyone a heads up,in case they spent money online and then lost it

If anyone's spending significant money online and not using a credit card, they're asking for trouble. And if they are using a credit card, they're not going to lose their money.

So the right thing to say, if anything, would be "if you're going to order online from HG, use a credit card, not a debit card". You still get to spread the rumour, but you get to throw a bit of consumer advice in there to take the edge off it. Everyone's a winner!

Holdup 12-02-12 01:16 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Well its not true, HG is not in administration so its nothing to worry about...

shonadoll 12-02-12 01:48 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I don't want to "spread a rumour" or "be a winner"- just passing on information I had been party to. I'd hope people would use a credit card but I know not everyone has one, especially in this climate. Shame if they lost out, I think.

Hornstar 12-02-12 05:59 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I work for the Insolvency Service (government department dealing with insolvencies) and I will check our system tomorrow but from the information I can check at weekends Hein Gericke (UK) Ltd is not in any type of insolvency (Administration, Compulsory/Voluntary Liquidation).

They could of course be filing for it shortly but that would not happen on a weekend and the website would have to reflect that. In addition the notice of Administration will have to be filed at Companies House, which it isnt.

Hornstar 12-02-12 06:13 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2661841)
So the right thing to say, if anything, would be "if you're going to order online from HG, use a credit card, not a debit card". You still get to spread the rumour, but you get to throw a bit of consumer advice in there to take the edge off it. Everyone's a winner!

I think the rules state that this is only true if your spending between £100 and £30,000 on a single item. Any single item under £100 or over £30,000 isn't protected by S.75 of the Consumer Credit Act.

Just thought I would clarify that as some items will be being purchased that are under £100 and thus the protection doesn't apply.

shonadoll 12-02-12 06:15 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornstar (Post 2661954)
I think the rules state that this is only true if your spending between £100 and £30,000 on a single item. Any single item under £100 or over £30,000 isn't protected by S.75 of the Consumer Credit Act.

Just thought I would clarify that as some items will be being purchased that are under £100 and thus the protection doesn't apply.

That's really useful I didn't know that, thank you!

ogden 12-02-12 06:15 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornstar (Post 2661954)
I think the rules state that this is only true if your spending between £100 and £30,000 on a single item. Any single item under £100 or over £30,000 isn't protected by S.75 of the Consumer Credit Act.

Just thought I would clarify that as some items will be being purchased that are under £100 and thus the protection doesn't apply.

Sure, but the post was in reply to one talking about spending three hundred quid or more. If I was down less than a hundred notes on bits for a motorcycle that never turned up, I'd try not to let it ruin my day too much.

Hornstar 12-02-12 06:27 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2661958)
Sure, but the post was in reply to one talking about spending three hundred quid or more. If I was down less than a hundred notes on bits for a motorcycle that never turned up, I'd try not to let it ruin my day too much.

No of course but if you order 5 things that total say £450 but each individual item costs £90 then your credit provider may state that no individual item is over £100 and thus your not covered. I think we all know what these large corporations are like when it comes to putting their hands in their pockets.

Don't take this as gospel though, I am just stating what the legislation says and that it is worded as "a single item". Legislation can be interpreted differently by many people and so it depends on how the credit provider interprets the wording of the legislation.

TBH, its all a mute point at the moment as Hein Gericke (UK) Ltd is not in any form of insolvency procedure, although they could be tomorrow or the next day. I'll have a look on our system and update here tomorrow.

EssexDave 12-02-12 07:24 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornstar (Post 2661947)
I work for the Insolvency Service (government department dealing with insolvencies) and I will check our system tomorrow but from the information I can check at weekends Hein Gericke (UK) Ltd is not in any type of insolvency (Administration, Compulsory/Voluntary Liquidation).

They could of course be filing for it shortly but that would not happen on a weekend and the website would have to reflect that. In addition the notice of Administration will have to be filed at Companies House, which it isnt.


But administrations don't show on iscis? I didn't think CVAs/CVLs did either unless they were passed to IES but I may be wrong..

Hornstar 12-02-12 07:35 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EssexDave (Post 2661974)
But administrations don't show on iscis? I didn't think CVAs/CVLs did either unless they were passed to IES but I may be wrong..

Yes they do show on iscis. the ips have to submit dreturns and so will have an NCL prefix. In any event the notice will be filed on CH. I think they are on iscis for the financial side as well.

EssexDave 12-02-12 07:42 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornstar (Post 2661978)
Yes they do show on iscis. the ips have to submit dreturns and so will have an NCL prefix. In any event the notice will be filed on CH. I think they are on iscis for the financial side as well.


Insolvency service is no longer dealing with IP estate accounting? Wasn't this released as part of the cuts? I don't know and to be honest don't care as it's never something we deal with, regardless, going into adminstration, and being in administration are two completely separate things and I'm not convinced HG are either.

Definately grateful for the post though as in future it could be the case that someone gets stung and wishes someone had said something before the event.

Hornstar 12-02-12 07:49 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EssexDave (Post 2661981)
Insolvency service is no longer dealing with IP estate accounting? Wasn't this released as part of the cuts? I don't know and to be honest don't care as it's never something we deal with, regardless, going into adminstration, and being in administration are two completely separate things and I'm not convinced HG are either.

Definately grateful for the post though as in future it could be the case that someone gets stung and wishes someone had said something before the event.

You may be right about the financial side. im not 100% sure. i remember the delays in fixing the iscis errors were due to the estate accounts side (was a floorwalker for my office but am no more thank god!) so again i don't know!

I think your right about hein gericke. doesn't look like either applies to them. time will tell i guess. will be a shame if the do go but i suspect whatever happens the brand will stay on as it will get sold on as is the case with most admins.

EssexDave 12-02-12 07:52 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Pre-pack as always.


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