Never did like the look of the Tiger XC...
 

Until now!

Sadly I would never be able to use the bike to its full potential like these guys! But a blurry good watch!

Re: Never did like the look of the Tiger XC...
 

Love the Icon gear, not sure what use a hood on a bike jacket is though

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I'm seriously thinking about one for my next bike when my sprint is 3 years old in may.

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Had to hook the laptop up to the telly to watch that, all kinds of awesome! :cool:

Re: Never did like the look of the Tiger XC...
 

another completely impractical off road bike just like the gs

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Eh?

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I like the look of them. They are on my list of next bike to get

Long way down ring any bells?.....

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or long way round

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Dangerous thing to say, with this being a Triumph forum n all ;)

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Got nothing to with triumph, adventure style bike sales are up 26%, impractical ? Yeah right, they are more practical and multi purpose than any road bike, these bikes can go on dirt, carry shed loads of gear if required (on and off road), they are comfortable and can do big miles to a tank.
Now, what part is impracticle again?

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yes we know what they used,but they were so heavy when they dropped them they couldnt pick them up again, and if it wasnt for there back up follopwing them they wouldn't have got round after needing one or two repairs,and after many a conversation with a chap i know who's been to the artic circle and done the original paris dakar route twice,and on the dakar route the number of brand new bmw gs's that got left behind either broken,or the riders couldn't keep up or handle the size and weight,and when riding on sand in the middle of africa being able to pick up a fully laden bike on your own may be 10 times a day or more is pretty important,oh i forgot to mention his bike of choice was a xt600,and know uses a xt660 but doesnt think its as suited to the task as the 600

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Yeah and nick sanders used a R1 to get round the world so really it's not just the bike.

I'd rather go round the world on a tiger 800 or gs than a xt anyway (even though they are good bikes).

With respect mate, you're talking out your rear end, just because not all adventure bikes aren't used to go the article circle or the Dakar, they are impractical?

Every bike has pros and cons, adventure bikes tick more boxes than any other genre of bike.

Get yourself on the abr forum and see how many handy people on there can throw a big gs around.

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you pays your money and takes your choice,most adventure style bikes never see dirt,and unless you spend another 4k on it it wont get you to africa in style,and as to carry shed loads of gear you obviously havent seen my bandit loaded up going to the dragon rally in february,with a bit of imagination you can make most bikes do things they were not intended for

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Like i wrote in my edited post above, there's plenty of big bike riders on the abr forum who would disagree with you.
You squeezing a load of stuff on your bandit is one thing but it will always feel and look like an over loaded bike, the big adventure bikes are designed with this in mind and will handle the job better.
My sprint will carry loads too, but I wouldnt wanna go through a ford on it or 40mph on gravel tracks, I wouldn't think twice on an adventure bike.

There isnt a single bike out there that wouldn't need some mods if you wanted to ride to Africa and back, £4k is a bit of an exaggeration.

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metal mule bassic panniers topbox and fittings comes out at £1650,then there other options,crashbars! bigger petrol tank gps uprated shocks etc etc,and any one who can pick up a 1/3 of a ton fully loaded in the middle of africa several times a day unaided,well his/your middle name must be samson,and as i mentioned before there are a number of well off people who get there brand new fully equipped gs shipped out to do the africa experiance,more fail or give up then make it because it to difficult,made harder by the size and weight of the bikes,and the number of miles you have to do every day to keep up if you are in a organized group,the chap i know flew back over to rescue a 14k gs bike back to the uk as the owner couldnt hack it

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so how many buy one and take it to Africa?

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a few less then go off road with one in this country,dont get me wrong the tiger and the gs are mostlikely good bikes on the tarmac,not so good when your inside leg measure about 30 inch's,but i think most people would find them a handfull off road because of the size and weight,and if i was to go off road in this country for the day i would get something like a ts250 or dt175,there getting a bit old in the tooth these days,but are/were cheap to buy and run,not to high seatwise and even a whimp like me could pick it up if you dropped it

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yeah but you can go on a off road riding experience to teach you the skills of riding it off road. Just like Porsche owners getting a driving course so they don't exit every bend backwards because they have lifted off the throttle lol

and if you buy a bike that is too big for you then of course you're gonna struggle riding it however you might be built like a tank and can bench press the bloody thing lol

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Who said you have to use metal mule boxes, there are plenty that are a fraction of that, a lot of bikes come with them now too.

There are a number of people who buy the gs and never take them off road, but they also are a very good road bike, I was speaking to a guy in his 50's at a rally who had a 1200 and never went off road but he could get his knee down on the track in the fast group on track days and overtook sports bikes on mountain passes in the French alps, so they are capable.

Adventure bikes don't have to be axel deep in mud and gravel to make sense, this is where you're missing the point, they do virtually everything better than a normal road bike.

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i was saying what it might cost to set a bike up to go seriously off road,where fiber glass or plastic would only last a day,and the nearest petrol/service station might be 500 miles away,and there is always some one who can ride better than fireblade and r1 owners on a track on a less track oriented bike(if i took my blade on a trackday,apart from killing myself,there would be a awful lot of "lesser"bikes that would beat me round the track),its more to do with the rider capability then the bike,hell i can remember a while ago(a long while ago actually) ,there was a chap i knew he was about 6ft6 tall and used to make and race 125cc bsa bantams,and ive herd him say he could beat the vast majority off suzuki gs1000's on the track,they'd overtake on the straight but he'd loose them on the bends,so that 90+hp against maybe 30hp at most,but that didnt mean every one went out and bought a old bsa bantam,
anycase most people will tell you no matter what bike it is, what they own and ride, is the best bike you can get

For me buying a BMW GS is exactly the same concept as buying a BMW X5. Most people buy an X5 for space, elevated driving position, solidity, comfort and finally fashion.

A Pan European is better at touring Europe by road, a 250 Enduro bike is better for serious off-road.

A GS will be fine for anything in-between. If you want to go to a country where the roads are unsurfaced, pot-holed, gravelly or muddy but still passable by the majority of vehicles, then a GS will do a better job of carrying you through it than a Pan Euro due to more suitable tyres and long travel suspension.

Euan and Charley had the idea in a pub, partly spawned by Mondo Enduro who went on DR350's. They didn't have a clue what they were doing and were naieve to take the GS's for that trip.

If you go right round the world, Dakar routes, or on trips like my Portugal mountain trip, you will come across situations where the road is in a condition impassable to vehicles, or non existant and this is where the GS gets stuck.

The GS is a great seller, just like the X5 has been a great seller, and if thats what you want from the vehicle then it's not pointless. Maybe the X5 buyer isn't gaining anything he couldn't get from a 5 series Estate, except the elevated driving position, but if he likes that driving position then the vehicle absolutely isn't pointless.

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