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Coming home this afternoon and going uphill away from a village, the village has speed humps, two policewomen had hid their car behind this bush and were pointing their camera up the hill, following my direction but intending to get drivers coming down the hill.

Screen snap from google street...
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps1a05663e.jpg


https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...53.85,,0,14.25
The annoying thing about this is, at the top of the hill is a school with speed humps outside, then it goes into nothing before coming in to the village so most people do 40 along here but slow down as they come in to the village as there are speed humps almost right behind where these policewomen were.

This is nothing to do with road safety or speed reduction, this is purely to catch as many as possible to generate some cash.

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disgusting tactics!!!

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I get your point, but it's a bit of an assumption. They could have been asked to do something by the school. Not all drivers slow down that much for speed bumps and some like to speed up a lot in between.

They shouldn't conceal themselves, but that's the only issue I'd have with this.

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really? I thought that was what they were there for, see how fast you can go in between them then slow down really quickly, then speed up ... and so it goes on...

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Nope, the speed humps outside the secondary school are massive, go over them fast and you will do damage or get air or both, plus it's probably 1/3 mile away from where these super crime fighters were.

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Would you prefer they stood in plain sight and maybe put signs up down the road to tell people they were there so they caught no one and deterred no one from speeding? Most of the time (round here)they put speed traps out in response to speeding complaints.

break the law pay the price, I've got 9 points and you don't hear me whinging.

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I have to say I agree somewhat with Spank! If your travelling within the speed limit what do you have to worry about!


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Did you stop and watch what they were doing, did you consider asking them? Is it possible they were doing something else?
Reason I ask is that there are a few "operational" abnormalities that would tend to indicate it would be unlikely they were carrying out a pre-planned speed check in the manner you describe. It is possible that they were part of a "speed watch" programme which is more about raising public awareness rather than seeking prosecutions. What car were they using?

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I'm with Spank, if you don't like the idea of being caught don't speed.

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what speed limit is the road between the school and the village?

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30 all the way by the look of it. I agree that on the bit over the M6 it would be easy to let things creep up a bit but there's a reminder it's a 30 as you go past the nursery and then two sets of "SLOW" in the road approaching the officers and the roundabout immediately behind them.

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Well, RH I can always rely on you to give a intelligent response rather than don't speed, or hug a tree like some.

It was a standard car from what I could see and the gun they were holding looked like a standard speed gun and the one was using the way I've seen others do it.

So I concede it may be what you describe above but there are better places further up the road to increase awareness, the speed humps control speed perfectly well.

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Listen to the ark angel.
Yes, actually high profile policing is more efficient at speed reduction than stealth tactics, so yes I would prefer it if there were warnings.


I forgot, nobody speeds on here, funny that, considering every ride out I've been on with anyone off here I've normally been the one going the slowest speed ( which has still been higher than the limit)

See above.

I wasn't speeding when I saw these police parked anyway, but I certainly warned as many as I could going in the other direction, don't care a crap if it's naughty.

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It is 30 RH but with good visibility and not being built up I do 40 along here as most do, but slow down where I have to.

I personally drive /ride to conditions (weather, geography, time of day etc) not speed limits so much.

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Nothing particularly intelligent about it, just been involved in to much boring admin......

It's very unusual to see a police car (or van) conducting speed checks parked on private property. Any planned operation or activity has to be risk assessed and you would need to get the landowners permission to do so. It's also an activity rarely conducted outside of Roads Policing (big fast car), unless it's the Speed Watch programme which is a community based initiative.

If you're not sure or even just curious just go back and ask them, they always welcome a bit of public engagement......the public won't win any support by ignoring them......!

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Next time I see these I will ask them, I was tempted at the time to shout "funds low again in your nick?" glad I didn't now if they were only doing a community project or something lol

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Got bored reading before the last line did you?

More efficient at slowing people down for the duration of the speed trap maybe, but they certainly do sod all to keep people slow.

There's two roads near me I can spot a speed trap on and slow in time and three I can't. Guess which ones I ALWAYS slow for? (Anecdotal I know but I doubt I'm alone)

Same with speed cameras the real problem with them is they only slow people for the duration of the camera. They really ARE just revenue raising unless put right putside schools or in accident black spots.

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I too generally ride to the current conditions, but I always slow down to 30 in a 30!
I know how quickly I ride and if I was stopped or caught I know I would be in the wrong, regardless of the methods used! At the end of the day speeding is speeding wherever its done whether you like it or not!


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I have no points and haven't had any for years - I have a nose for speed traps. I don't break 30 limits so that does help, I consider anyone who regularly does to be a complete ar5ewipe. 40 limits I treat as a maximum 50 limit and 50 limits I regard as a 70 limit. NSLs I've renamed GLFs.

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Sounds very similar to the way I ride.

Of course most of my speeding points were for breaking goods vehicle limits. Havent had any yet on the bike (fingers crossed)

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While we're talking speed cameras and stuff ...

Gatzos, or whatever ... they are effective, for me at least, in sorting out my speed for a reasonable period of time, in some situations. I'm doing this particular route regularly at the moment, which goes national-30-national-30 quite a few times. The ones which have a gatzo on entrance to the 30 slow me down, and then I keep to 30 throughout (maybe creeping up a bit). The ones which don't have a gatzo, I tend to enter above the posted limit and slow down gradually, using my own judgement of hazards. So for people like me, they do work at controlling speed beyond the camera.

Having said that, there are gatzos in a few national limits which only serve to slow me down for the duration of the gatzo, purely because they make no sense in terms of making hazards safer, so get ignored.

Obviously all mention of speeding above is just bravado.

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I think I might have 6 as of last week on the way into midhurst. I didn't see a stationary camera :( slammed on the breaks but I don't think I made it low enough before I saw it flash. Bye bye cheap insurance :(

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I'm always amused to pass the disused Gatsos on my route to work. In some places they haven't even bothered repainting the road markings.

These cameras were a vital part of the council's speed policy.... until they stopped getting the revenue from them.

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They have"reminders" round hear.
But only a few are underhand . Mainly you see a fluro vest.
It's only one week and the kids are back in school.

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15 years ago going through a village near work, NSL approach and after.

There stands the man with his hair dryer his right hand in plain sight in high vis, but after you go round a slight bend. What is that he raises up with his left.

A 30 sign.

Educated me. I never speed through there.

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in newport we have the 2nd biggest cash cow in the country (biggest being on m60 by stockport iirc). Its pointless as has been mentioned similar to original case due to huge speed bumps in the 20 zone where pedestrians are. but at £1million a year they wont switch off in a hurry

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fallenangel, the data you got that info from above. Does it tell you what the one on the M180 generates just out of S****horpe?
Thats the one which issued me last bunch of points I've being delt, arriving in S****horpe I was told "oh no it gets everyone" a couple of the lads saying things such as "we nearly warned you about that" "join the club" etc. I'd be interested to know how much that generates. Its a mobile unit who park on a high platform around a tree lined left hand corner. I was in lane 1 as the motorway was empty with it been early on a Sunday morning, doing 87mph IIRC it was very much a "we all do it" sort of motorway speed. I came around the tree's and you see them stood yards infront of you... busted! Certainly stopped me speeding up the M180 on return visits.

ROFL Just checked on Google earth to see if I could find the spot... switch to street view and they're parked up in all their glory. The Google camera car is in lane 2, but you can still appreciate the distance between Google car and police car isn't much before they come into view on their platform, at least on this occasion the car is to the front of the bay most times I've been that way since I'd say they're parked much further back (no idea where they were parked on the day I got points, too busy thinking feck feck feck).
If you want to view it on google earth search for "beltoft" Just above the village is the M180 just north of the junction is a cluster of trees, zoom in and you'll see where the police station themselves, switch to streetview to see them in action.

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Sorry, I'm confused. If it's pointless because of the speed humps and the pedestrians why exactly is it the biggest cash cow? I'm assuming there isn't a donation box next to it so that drivers can leave something as they crawl past?

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:smt077
Can't fault that .
There may be some switched on Pep's that always stick to the posted . Were only human and as long as your not being unreasonably persecuted then just get on with life .
Don't sweat the small stuff.

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ordinary day driving past a row of trees.....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...17_468x331.jpg

OMG... what's that - oh bummer!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...29_468x286.jpg


http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...-in-bushes.png

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Dude, anyone can take a photo of a bush, and then take one later when somebody is there. I don't take a photo of my driveway empty, then one with the car on it and go "OMG KEEP CALM! TELEPORTING CAR!!" :D

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Did you not see the police man circled hiding in the bush? :plod:

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Holy moly! I stand corrected. I had to stare at it for a good few seconds before I could actually see him.

Copper scores +1 Camouflage Stealth bonus.

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That just goes to show how deceptive a photo can be. That was taken with a very long lens and I agree it does make it look as if the officers are "hidden" in the bushes. If you take the time to go and look at it on street view you will see that they are stood in the middle of a bus stop on the pavement, it's just the curve that makes them look hidden. Still, wouldn't want the facts to stand in the way of some good bashing.....

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If you chase up your opticians appointment you can find a second copper in picture two as well.;)

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Hi-Vis my ar5e!! That's camouflage!

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don't spoil all my fun :smt077

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Sorry, I promise to try and switch off when not at work.....:D

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The thing is if you lived down a road were people oftened speed past ,Would you be on to the council and local papers about it?
The LandLord of the Western' has and the local plod had to show a presence,Fair dues as some people belt past the pub (Bikers are just as bad :( ) And theres a crossing 100 meters up the road.

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Two months & the leaves will have gone.
As they say " Carry On . . "