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sputnik 15-10-13 10:09 PM

cheap heated grips
 
Apologies if posted in wrong section. Heads up for 2 wheel junkie selling Keis heated grips just now for £20 plus postage (3.70) (supposed rrp is £49). No idea how long price runs for or whether they are any use. Only two heat settings but certainly seems cheap for a known brand. If they are useless, please don't tell me as mine are in the post!

http://2wheeljunkie.co.uk/best-deals...rod_47949.html

JohnStMartin 15-10-13 10:23 PM

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Mine will be here tommorrow.

sputnik 15-10-13 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnStMartin (Post 2912080)
Mine will be here tommorrow.

Mine too - to replace my roxter ones which have conked out. Hopefully these will be OK and last a bit longer...

Replacement heated gloves hopefully on the way from gerbing too. Can't have too much warmth going on. Guaranteed to be nobody in at delivery time though so they can all spend a week in a depot somewhere...!

Tomor 15-10-13 11:03 PM

cheap heated grips
 
They are fine, they are just being re-branded.

Purity14 16-10-13 09:39 AM

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I have a pair on my SV, two heat settings, one does nothing, one is full bore heat.

I can have them on high and deal with the heat by raising my fingers for a second or so if im on the motorway, its just enough to cool them if you feel uncomfortable, they have lasted many many miles, but they arent the best ones ever.

After seeing this thread for a pair for 20 quid, ive just ordered another set for the cbr.

JohnStMartin 16-10-13 08:55 PM

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my oxford commuters were the same . siberia or mojave .

DryRob 16-10-13 10:01 PM

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They're also selling them through their ebay shop

chris c 17-10-13 10:50 AM

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Has anybody got any photo's of these fitted to a bike?

DryRob 17-10-13 08:41 PM

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I've ordered a set, does anyone know how to fit them?

sputnik 17-10-13 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DryRob (Post 2912440)
I've ordered a set, does anyone know how to fit them?

Mine have just arrived. Unlike some other brands they don't arrive ready to fit both terminals direct to the battery. Instead, the negative has a ring connector which could go to battery or other earth point. The positive is just bare wire for connecting into a switched positive line.
The downside of this is that they are not as immediately plug and play as some others. The plus side is that if fitted this way you won't kill your battery by leaving them on. I am planning on connecting via Bibio's magical gizmo.

Everything else looks as per other types, so relatively straightforward to fit. On pack instructions are a bit vague. If you haven't fitted heated grips before Youtube is probably your friend. If yours are like mine, don't waste too much time looking for the 'glue provided'. It's not there!

DryRob 17-10-13 11:23 PM

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Do they come with an inline fuse or will I have to get one? Shame about the glue, looks like I'll have to drink beer at weekend.

sputnik 17-10-13 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DryRob (Post 2912492)
Do they come with an inline fuse or will I have to get one? Shame about the glue, looks like I'll have to drink beer at weekend.

Yep, fitted with inline fuse.

Poundland - £1 for 5 tubes of highly questionable superglue - ideal for ALL your solvent based requirements!

Bibio 18-10-13 12:23 AM

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you want contact adhesive for fitting grips. spread on bar and allow to dry then 'pop' grip on.

Kenzie 18-10-13 06:42 AM

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Can you tell me how wide the grips are? Ride Magazine review said they were quite short but thick.

DryRob 18-10-13 10:28 AM

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Bibio, are these magic gizmos of yours relays?

veenee 18-10-13 01:13 PM

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I have been using them for last year or so - got them free when subscribed to Bike magazine.
They're fine but have really only one setting -full on.
Which is OK I guess, but I wonder if there is a way of making the other setting usable...

Bibio 18-10-13 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DryRob (Post 2912537)
Bibio, are these magic gizmos of yours relays?

yes and no ;)

have a look here http://www.svbits.co.uk/ but i have nothing in stock at the moment.

veenee 18-10-13 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 2912564)
but i have nothing in stock at the moment.

any idea when you are going to have some?

Kenzie 18-10-13 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 2912513)
Can you tell me how wide the grips are? Ride Magazine review said they were quite short but thick.

Anyone? Tempted to order but need to know how wide they are.

Bibio 18-10-13 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by veenee (Post 2912593)
any idea when you are going to have some?

i'm sort hoping around xmas to have full stock and some new goodies.

now the winter is imminent i will be bored more so looking for things to do.

DryRob 18-10-13 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 2912596)
Anyone? Tempted to order but need to know how wide they are.

I'll take a photo alongside the stock grips when they get here but I only ordered them yesterday

Tomor 18-10-13 07:44 PM

cheap heated grips
 
I'll measure a set when I get into work tomorrow.

sputnik 18-10-13 08:54 PM

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OK. Highly unscientific measuring but holding an original grip in the air and lining up a see through ruler gives a 'sort of' diameter of 3cm. Doing the same with the Keis ones reads about 3.4cm. I'll let the mathematicians work out what that might mean in the round.

Difference in length is about 3-4 mm.

Out the package I'd agree they look a bit like a little teapot i.e. short and stout. That said, I got them to replace the heated grips currently on the bike which I seem to recall were also short and fat compared to the originals. I'd prefer skinnier grips but cold handed beggars can't be choosers.

DryRob 19-10-13 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 2912607)
i'm sort hoping around xmas to have full stock and some new goodies.

now the winter is imminent i will be bored more so looking for things to do.

Will a 12V 4pin 30A relay do? And could I run a 12V cig lighter socket through it as well?

Kenzie 19-10-13 07:49 AM

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How would the width compare to say the Oxford grips? I have quite wide hands and don't want the grips to feel uncomfortable.

Bibio 19-10-13 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DryRob (Post 2912672)
Will a 12V 4pin 30A relay do? And could I run a 12V cig lighter socket through it as well?

if it's to switch things on and off then yes thats what a relay does. if you get a 5 pin (twin make and break) you would end up with 2 live out.

DryRob 19-10-13 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 2912736)
if it's to switch things on and off then yes thats what a relay does. if you get a 5 pin (twin make and break) you would end up with 2 live out.

Ok, so the circuit for the grips/socket would go:

Battery > relay > fuse > accessory > earth

And to the relay switching circuit using the rear light:

Fusebox > (splice to relay > earth) lights > earth

I'm guessing the feed from the battery to the relay should be capable of carrying the current for both accessories and that the relay should be rated for both also? Will i need a fuse for the relay switching feed?

Bibio 19-10-13 02:34 PM

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yes

no

no

never cut into the main bike loom unless you have to. take feed from rear brake light switch and below the connector. or make an inline 'splice' connector using same conectors. also remember that the coil needs to go to negitive. (there is no 'earth' on car/bike electrics it's a negative).

reason you never cut into main loom is that it can cause problems later. always use a feed after a connector so if you do get problems you can replace the item you cut into rather than 'splicing' the main loom.

DryRob 19-10-13 05:20 PM

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So the light circuit is:

Battery > fuse > switch > bulb > negative

I was going to use a piggyback connector to pull a feed just after the fuse and keep all the connectors at the seat end of the bike, would that work?

Bibio 19-10-13 07:12 PM

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ok what exactly do you plan on doing.. this thread is about 'heated grips' and your talking about bulbs?????

are you talking about how to power the coil on the relay? if so then '''never cut/splice into main loom''' you can however splice into the rear tail light after the main loom connector as it comes on with the ignition. no you don't need a fuse for the coil part of the relay....

no offence but do you know how a relay works?

Bibio 19-10-13 07:26 PM

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how to wire a relay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/vgsoow.jpg

DryRob 19-10-13 10:35 PM

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I'm not a sparky or mechanic so I don't know the lingo but I know the basics of how they work. I apologise for confusing matters by not drawing a circuit but I can't do that on my phone.

That diagram was more or less what I'm planning to do, I only mentioned the lighting circuit to ask where abouts to pull a switched live from to operate the relay.

I just don't know what rating relay to get, could you help with that please?

Bibio 20-10-13 01:16 AM

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get the biggest rated (40 amp) 12v relay you can, it can never be to big :-)

DryRob 20-10-13 04:33 PM

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Thanks for the advice Bibio

DryRob 22-10-13 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by veenee (Post 2912561)
I have been using them for last year or so - got them free when subscribed to Bike magazine.
They're fine but have really only one setting -full on.
Which is OK I guess, but I wonder if there is a way of making the other setting usable...

I got mine the other day, did you use any glue when fitting them? The ones I've got have a hard plastic tube through the middle, did you remove that?

Purity14 12-12-13 06:22 PM

cheap heated grips
 
I glued mine


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