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wolverine04uk 24-11-04 01:29 PM

Tinted visor in the dark?
 
I'd like some opinions on this. Got a Takai Terror helmet from Gericke about 3 months ago. Didn't realise until someone else posted on here but the visor is tinted and not stamped with the british safety thing. It wasn't pointed out to me at the time, and to be honest I didn't check. Also there's this shaped screw thing that holds the visor down that's fallen off. All in all not too chuffed with it, esp. when I had to go across the Snake Pass the other evening when it was raining.

Anyway, do you think I could still take it back to Gericke and get my money back or demand a clear visor, Im having a devil of a job trying to find one on my own.

BillyC 24-11-04 01:31 PM

Demand a clear visor... you're breaking the law, and stupidly so! Riding in the dark with a tinted visor, no matter how little, is not a good idea.

Carsick 24-11-04 01:36 PM

I can't help thinking that they shouldn't have sold you a helmet without an approved visor.
Either way, if it's started falling apart, take it back.

wolverine04uk 24-11-04 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyC
Demand a clear visor... you're breaking the law, and stupidly so! Riding in the dark with a tinted visor, no matter how little, is not a good idea.

I realise, thats why I had to ride with the visor up. Were Gericke breaking the law by selling this lid in the first place d'you think?

splke 24-11-04 01:38 PM

sounds like it is not fit for the job it was sold to do so they "should refund you"

Jabba 24-11-04 01:41 PM

Does the visor have an "E" mark?

Carsick 24-11-04 01:45 PM

I think they might have been breaking the law, but I think somebody in trading standards or similar would know better.
My logic is this, the helmet must be approved to be sold as safety equipment; the visor is part of the helmet.
So, we can argue that since you were in a motorcycle accessories shop, the helmet was sold as safety equipment and therefore was not fit for the purpose.
Unless of course it had one of those HG tags on it that say it's not suitable as personal protective equipment. I've got into arguments with the staff in shops over that tag a few times now.

Viney 24-11-04 01:56 PM

My mate was topped once for wearing a dark visor at night. The copper, obviously had a sense of humour, casue he let him off when he lifted the visor to find him wearing sunglasses(Which hed put on whilst the copper was walking around the bike!!

We laughed, the copper laughed.

annnnnyway, Take the lid back to Gerickes, state your calim and see what they say. No need to start rubbishing anyone.anything before they have a chance to defend/rectify the situation.

wolverine04uk 24-11-04 01:58 PM

The only thing it says on the visor is daytime use only. As I said, I hadn't thought to even look at it till a few weeks ago. Should've checked it before I bought it really, but being such a large chain just assumed that it was "fit for purpose".

wolverine04uk 24-11-04 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Viney
annnnnyway, Take the lid back to Gerickes, state your calim and see what they say. No need to start rubbishing anyone.anything before they have a chance to defend/rectify the situation.

Not rubbishing them, just wanted an opinion on what I could do.

Viney 24-11-04 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverine04uk
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Originally Posted by Viney
annnnnyway, Take the lid back to Gerickes, state your calim and see what they say. No need to start rubbishing anyone.anything before they have a chance to defend/rectify the situation.

Not rubbishing them, just wanted an opinion on what I could do.

No i know that, but have seen where these kind of threads go. I have never found Gerickse to be anything other than courtious.

zx6man 24-11-04 02:03 PM

The visor should have an ec stamp and number (or something similar)....don't have the british kite mark anymore. AND, did you ask for the helmet to be used day and night..if not..no argument really. It will be a legal tinted visor not a "black" one I reckon

Carsick 24-11-04 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zx6man
The visor should have an ec stamp and number (or something similar)....don't have the british kite mark anymore

There are still some floating about that were manufactured before the change. Most should have have the CE mark now though, you're right.

wolverine04uk 24-11-04 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Viney
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Originally Posted by wolverine04uk
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Originally Posted by Viney
annnnnyway, Take the lid back to Gerickes, state your calim and see what they say. No need to start rubbishing anyone.anything before they have a chance to defend/rectify the situation.

Not rubbishing them, just wanted an opinion on what I could do.

No i know that, but have seen where these kind of threads go. I have never found Gerickse to be anything other than courtious.

I absolutely agree, its why i always end up going to them, its prob why i wasn't so careful buying this helmet. But the guy serving me was brilliant, knew his stuff and helped wherever he could. I'll just have to go down and try and get my money back. I just wanted another opinion on whether I had a case for taking it back.

Jabba 24-11-04 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverine04uk
The only thing it says on the visor is daytime use only

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That indicates that it's legal for road use in daylight.

If it was non-road legal it would be marked "Not for road use".

You stand more chance of a refund over the build-quality issues :thumbsup:

wolverine04uk 24-11-04 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt
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Originally Posted by wolverine04uk
The only thing it says on the visor is daytime use only

](*,)

That indicates that it's legal for road use in daylight.

If it was non-road legal it would be marked "Not for road use".

You stand more chance of a refund over the build-quality issues :thumbsup:

Cheers Jabba. I'll give it a go.

Cloggsy 24-11-04 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverine04uk
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Originally Posted by BillyC
Demand a clear visor... you're breaking the law, and stupidly so! Riding in the dark with a tinted visor, no matter how little, is not a good idea.

I realise, thats why I had to ride with the visor up. Were Gericke breaking the law by selling this lid in the first place d'you think?

It's alright doing that until you get smacked in the face by a piece of flying debris :!: <ouch>

Jabba 24-11-04 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloggsy
It's alright doing that until you get smacked in the face by a piece of flying debris :!: <ouch>

Yeah - even rain-drops smart a little at 60mph :roll:

H-Gerickemark 24-11-04 11:26 PM

hello,

The takai terror helmet is sold with a road legal 10% tint visor which meets ec22.05,we do sell a clear visor for them at £34.99.

BUT

as you recently bought the helmet something should be done under warranty regarding the build quality issue providing you have proof of purchase or a bank/credit card statement with the purchase on it.

In the maidstone store we get the customers to sign a third party form
to say they are completely happy with the condition of the helmet and
that they are fully aware of its features and fit. It also states on the form
that once a helmet has left the shop it cannot be returned unless a serious manufacturer fault is present ie - if you get the helmet home and decide you dont like the fit or colour it cannot be returned/exchanged.

This sounds harsh but if you bought a helmet that someone else had worn and dropped then returned because apparently they didnt like the colour and you have a accident and the helmet is tested and found that it is unsafe for use hein gericke is in a lot of trouble. We are then liable for any head injuries you suffer due too selling you faulty safety equipment.


Your best bet is to go into the store and have a word with the bloke/lady who sold you it and see what they can do. 90% of them are bikers so will see it from both points of view.

hope it works out ok

Mark

Sincs 25-11-04 07:31 PM

It was I who posted up about the helmet and visor mate. I have alerted HG to the problem as the police confescated my visor after my accident, and that was at 9:15 in the morning - bright sunny day too (really bad day for an accident).

I noticed the "For Day Use Only" stamp about a month after I bought the helmet, and TBH I caried on using it at night. Why? Cos I actually felt safer. I could still read signs and plates the same, but the glare from headlights was taken away.

Muttley 26-11-04 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Viney
My mate was topped once for wearing a dark visor at night.

Sounds a bit extreme. :P


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