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Grinch 13-05-05 09:32 AM

What would be better from a can or a airbrush kit?
 
I have plans for my SV and they involve some spraying. Just a simple military design... a mix of this:

http://www.gatwick-aviation-museum.c...s/GR3-3sqn.gif

And designs taken from my helmet.

http://www.axesstrading.se/Hjalmar/K...lvercombat.jpg

Not sure if to go with blue's and white or grays and white.

So will I be looking at just a base coat and some masking with the second, thinking of stencils to give it that 'rushed' look to give it the patern. Or should I start playing with a airbrushing kit to get the design right?
Whats your experieces of using these things?

Lots of font stencils will be used..
Like:
'Intake' and 'Pilot Daniel "Grinch" Martin' at the front
Plus
'Danger exhaust' or 'Hot Gasses'

BillyC 13-05-05 09:36 AM

When I was a kid... my Dad used to play with my toys more than I did.

Perhaps you're taking the concept to the next level!

:lol:

Grinch 13-05-05 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyC
When I was a kid... my Dad used to play with my toys more than I did.

Perhaps you're taking the concept to the next level!

:lol:

Maybe.. one this is done I just need some wings and jumpjets. :D

Mogs 13-05-05 09:39 AM

This is a joke right :D ?

You can’t seriously be thinking of camouflaging the SV. :shock:

Ceri JC 13-05-05 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogs
This is a joke right :D ?

You can’t seriously be thinking of camouflaging the SV. :shock:

Yes, leave that to the 4x4 idiots :D

Did you see the 'stealth' bike Amercan Chopper did? I normally think mock-military stuff looks a bit tacky, but that was really good.

Grinch 13-05-05 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogs
This is a joke right :D ?

You can’t seriously be thinking of camouflaging the SV. :shock:

I am very much so.. I want something different and I don't really like the race rep stuff apart from the Rizzla one and thats been done. I did think about purple, but thats been done 2. So on to something different.

what Stealth chopper?

PoRk ChOp 13-05-05 09:56 AM

Re: What would be better from a can or a airbrush kit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
Lots of font stencils will be used..
Like:
'Intake' and 'Pilot Daniel "Grinch" Martin' at the front
Plus
'Danger exhaust' or 'Hot Gasses'

I'm 99% sure I have seen this done on an SV before??? One of our American buddies I think. Should look good if done right.

Grinch 13-05-05 09:58 AM

Re: What would be better from a can or a airbrush kit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PoRk ChOp
I'm 99% sure I have seen this done on an SV before??? One of our American buddies I think. Should look good if done right.

I'm not sure about that.. as I've had a good look about...

PoRk ChOp 13-05-05 10:00 AM

Re: What would be better from a can or a airbrush kit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
I'm not sure about that.. as I've had a good look about...

Not camouflaged, but 'Jet Fightered' up I am certain of it.

Ceri JC 13-05-05 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
what Stealth chopper?

Basically the American Chopper guys did a bike based on the comanche stealth helicopter. Fuel tank looked like the nose of it, the colourscheme looked like stealth paint,etc.
video available here:
http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1128.htm

Be warned though, drab (particularly olive) colours are the most dangerous on a helmet (worse than black), according to an american bike safety report.

Flamin_Squirrel 13-05-05 10:22 AM

Cans of paint should be ok if you're just using stencils or masking off large areas.

If you're looking to do something more intricate, you'll need an airbrush. However, you'd have to get a decent one (expensive) as the cheap ones are no more accurate than spray paint cans.

Scoobs 13-05-05 10:36 AM

I've for some Sandtex emulsion left from painting the front of my house.

Grinch 13-05-05 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobs
I've for some Sandtex emulsion left from painting the front of my house.

Cheers Scoob's your all help.

Quiff Wichard 13-05-05 11:45 AM

scoobs is dead funny- he just keeps popping up with the one liners!!

Jay 13-05-05 11:47 AM

Think it's a pretty good idea, though I'd go with more muted colours than the Harrier western europe cam job, those strong greens with grey just won't look right on a bike!

HMS Belfast is a good example of sea and sky camo and would look better IMHO. Did an image search on google which was quite useful but all the links are far too long to post here!

There is a US guy who reshaped his fairing on a silver curvy and put on some USAF decals but he didn't go the whole hog. There's some pics buried in the archive of SVrider somewhere.

As to how to best way to paint - I always leave to someone who knows what their doing!!

Good luck. :D

Grinch 13-05-05 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigourneysbeaver
scoobs is funny dead - he just keeps popping up with the one liners!! (They call him Mr Dead).


Grinch 13-05-05 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay
Think it's a pretty good idea, though I'd go with more muted colours than the Harrier western europe cam job, those strong greens with grey just won't look right on a bike!

HMS Belfast is a good example of sea and sky camo and would look better IMHO. Did an image search on google which was quite useful but all the links are far too long to post here!

There is a US guy who reshaped his fairing on a silver curvy and put on some USAF decals but he didn't go the whole hog. There's some pics buried in the archive of SVrider somewhere.

As to how to best way to paint - I always leave to someone who knows what their doing!!

Good luck. :D

You mean this:
HMS Belfast

Captain Nemo 13-05-05 12:40 PM

Re: What would be better from a can or a airbrush kit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
I have plans for my SV and they involve some spraying. Just a simple military design... a mix of this:

http://www.gatwick-aviation-museum.c...s/GR3-3sqn.gif

And designs taken from my helmet.

http://www.axesstrading.se/Hjalmar/K...lvercombat.jpg

Not sure if to go with blue's and white or grays and white.

So will I be looking at just a base coat and some masking with the second, thinking of stencils to give it that 'rushed' look to give it the patern. Or should I start playing with a airbrushing kit to get the design right?
Whats your experieces of using these things?

Lots of font stencils will be used..
Like:
'Intake' and 'Pilot Daniel "Grinch" Martin' at the front
Plus
'Danger exhaust' or 'Hot Gasses'


Daniel,

Have you gone mad?

MavUK 13-05-05 01:09 PM

Whilst I think you're insane... I do want something different at some point. But will probably settle for Rover Tahiti Blue to match my Muddy fox I did up a couple of years ago...

If you are doing large area's you want a can, you'll get better results. For intricate work you need an airbrush. I paid about 70 quid for mine and it's good for down to about a 3mm cone. You can also use an airbrush with the templates to get less overspray.

I'd also see if you can hire a mini compressor though. I've got to get one as the air cans a) are useless as you have to dunk them in water when they get too cold, take them out again when too warm ad nausea. Plus 1L isn't enough for any kind of surface area. Great results though if you have the patience...

And don't forget, you need to spend a whole lot more time prepping than actually spraying. I spent about 12 weekends on my Muddy Fox prepping and 1 spraying, anything you leave before you spray will stand out like a sore thumb...

Looking forward to seeing the restults when done...

Stu

Grinch 13-05-05 01:18 PM

Why am I mad?

Quiff Wichard 13-05-05 04:35 PM

try just painted .com grinchy

Grinch 13-05-05 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigourneysbeaver
try just painted .com grinchy

Whould do but the guy is based in Glasgow.

Anonymous 13-05-05 04:47 PM

Sea and sky or alpine might be safer, Grinch. Or do your bike like a Mustang. Someone on here was on about that about a year ago.

Grinch 13-05-05 04:49 PM

mmmh maybe..

http://home.hixnet.co.za/adnams/images/plane.jpg

Quiff Wichard 13-05-05 05:35 PM

oh didnt realise he was that far away..sorry /...

Peter Henry 14-05-05 08:20 AM

Please forgive if this appears to be in bad taste as I have not seen him on here for ages,(and hope nothing untoward has happened since I saw him post last) But didn't Barty Boy used to be a top man with the old spray gun stuff? Also Rictus seems a top chappie too. And forgive my lack of name retention,but who is it that had the Rizla SV? I am sure someone will pass by and mark your card Grinch.
I would go for the black,grey,white like the Army pants I used to have.They looked cool!

Phoenix 14-05-05 09:47 AM

I think it will look pretty good if done right I would definetly go with the grey/white and black like the helmet.

Really u want to use a gun and compressor to paint the base coat top coat and laquer then an airbrush kit to lay down the graphics like intake and grinch ect as like said they are good for detailed painting but they dont really lay down much paint.

Be interesting to see the end result though.

good luck

Quiff Wichard 14-05-05 11:01 AM

ditto Grinch-match yer helmet


:shock:

oops >>>>>>>>> cue the entry of Scoobs !!

Scoobs 14-05-05 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigourneysbeaver
ditto Grinch-match yer helmet


:shock:

oops >>>>>>>>> cue the entry of Scoobs !!

I am SOOOOooooo misunderstood! :(

Quiff Wichard 14-05-05 01:36 PM

lol- see he's there a lurkin all the time !!!

Warren 14-05-05 01:42 PM

great. i am looking forward to some pics.

i recon it would look the nuts if done properly.

couldnt you pop into your local army surplus or recruitment office for info on decals, colours ect ect.

i also recon a few bullet holes would look good too (not in the fuel tank oviously)

northwind 14-05-05 04:00 PM

There's a guy who used to ride past me on the bus every day who rides an matte olive drab SV, coloured and detailed like a vietnam-era jeep, with loads of white stencil work... I really, really like it. Personally I don't think I'd want a bike designed to be hard to see :) But then again, camo won't exactly blend in in an urban environment. The bike's covered in filth and scratches, and it makes it look even better. Clever stuff.

Quiff Wichard 14-05-05 07:57 PM

lol @bullet holes

weegaz22 15-05-05 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikageboy
i also recon a few bullet holes would look good too (not in the fuel tank oviously)

might affect the resale value a bit though :lol:

Barty_b0y 16-05-05 01:31 PM

for masking purposes either airbrush or can you could do alot worse than use masking film

it comes on a roll and you cut out what you want then put it iver the area and paint et voila

it has a low adhesion rate and is ideal for airbrushing etc get a metre or so to a roll couple of quid

happy painting

Grinch 16-05-05 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barty_b0y
for masking purposes either airbrush or can you could do alot worse than use masking film

it comes on a roll and you cut out what you want then put it iver the area and paint et voila

it has a low adhesion rate and is ideal for airbrushing etc get a metre or so to a roll couple of quid

happy painting

Is there a particilar shop that I can get that from?

Warren 16-05-05 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barty_b0y
for masking purposes either airbrush or can you could do alot worse than use masking film

it comes on a roll and you cut out what you want then put it iver the area and paint et voila

it has a low adhesion rate and is ideal for airbrushing etc get a metre or so to a roll couple of quid

happy painting

Is there a particilar shop that I can get that from?

nearly any arts and crafts shop.

or try masking fluid, you paint it on, and dries like a rubber, so all you do is paint over it and peel it off.

doesnt damage the paint underneath either.

Grinch 27-04-06 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobs
I've for some Sandtex emulsion left from painting the front of my house.

Cheers Scoob's your all help.

This made me laugh all over again...

And I still want the paint job.


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