Tinted visor law is stupid-sign this petition
 

copy&past job spread the word yourself aswell :lol:

The UK has passed a law that makes black, colourd. or tinted visors illegal

you dont need me to tell you how stupid this law is . the only good reson i can think of for the goverment is that faces cannot be photographed with all the front facing speed camera.s all over the place. all you with dark visor.s please sign this petition and send it to as many forums as you can with a hope to stop them making even more money from us .

http://www.petitiononline.com/ukvisor/petition.html

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Great idea sticky! :D

Good job people, I always use a dark visor in summer BUT always carry a clear one for when I’m pulled (Not once yet, touch wood) or get caught out visiting someone late afternoon, law, what a joke it is sometimes, safety 1 Law 0.

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Argh! Blocked as "CHAT" can someone sign my name

Kevin Morgan - Caerphilly

I dont think it is stupid law.

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Its not a new law. Actually it sounds like they were reviewing the legislation which I hadnt heard about but didnt change it. Perhaps we should have lobbied during the review process. Hopefully someone did.

Just wear sunglasses. Doesn't look as good, but it's:
a) As effective
b) Quicker to 'change'
c) Perfectly legal.

That said, I reckon tinted visors should be legal, so I'm off to sign the petiton :)

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d) not entirely safe
e) not very comfortable
f) more expensive for reasonable quality
g) an extra thing to steam up

I agree with making black visors something you can only wear in daytime, and I would agree with telling people off if it's obviously a day when they're not a great idea, but on a bright day they are a very good thing and I find them necessary.

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I think it comes down to common sense, I dont wear my iridium visor if its lashing with rain, I'll be out when I know its going to get dark halfway through my ride.

I always carry my clear one with me in any case, and I still reckon its just as quick to change the visor on my shoei as it would be to stop and take my perscription sunnies off and put my normal glasses back on.

Signed. Not that it's likely to make any difference.

Except yours must be totally black, cos you went past me like Billy Whiz this morning on the M27 .......or were you just ignoring me :wink:

I saw you and waved with my leg.
I wasn't going that quick, though, you were just dawdling.
I only had 40 odd miles to home, and needed another cup of tea.

I have to ride trough some poorly lit underpasses on the journey from work and when I have my shades on it makes it very dark and I usually don't wear them for that part of the journey and then pull over and put them on later which quite frankly is a pain in the ****, at least with a tinted visor I can just lift the thing up when in the tunnels.

I agree there are times when using one is stupid just like when wearing sunglasses or in fact having tinted windows on your car, I will carry a clear visor with me as swapping visors in only slightly more hassle than taking of my glasses.

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not gonna make any difference tho im afraid.

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What you lot forget is that there is a small minority of riders who spoil it for the majority. These are the ones that will go out without a claer visor then ride home in the dusk/night whilst wearing them. Its those people that stop the tints become law!

Also, there was recently a government white paper on the subject i believe. After extensive testing, it was proved that there was no saftey improvement in wearing a tinted visor.

I still go with sunglasses thank you very much!

So just make it legal to wear a dark visor if you've got a clear visor with you :roll:

Again, that would be a good point. But people wont will they. Bikers are thier own worst enemy simple as that.

I can't really see the problem. If you cause an accident because you're riding a night with a dark visor then it's obvious you were being dangerous.

The law banning dark visor makes about as much sense as the law on spare wheels. As in you're allowed to drive a car with no spare wheel, but you're not allowed to drive a car with a spare wheel with an illegal tread, incase you're tempted to use it.

It's especialy stupid when you can legaly ride a bike with no lights on a daytime MOT. Whats worse being caught at night with?! At least you CAN change your visor.

Pre-emptively charging people with crimes is stupid - it's like arresting someone for murder because they own a kitchen knife.

Oh, as for the government white paper... would you trust anything the government says?!

I just think this debate has gone on for years. Its never going to be won, so why waste energy over it time and time again. Most of you biker scum have race cans fitted, yet you dont let that seem to worry you, so just wear your tinted visors and quit ya whinging.

As I said earlier, its common sense not use the dark visor at night or when the light conditions are poor, i.e. when its raining. As Viney says there are a minority of people that spoil it for everybod else.

It doesnt make any sense, I think its ridiculous that its OK to wear a pair of sunglasses under a clear visor, but not ot wear a dark visor. I have seen sunglasses that are way darker than my dark visor.

I have also seen a number of car drivers and biker wearing Shades when it's actually quite dark. If you wear prescription sunglasses and don't take clear glasses with you then you would be in the exact same position as only having a dark visor with you.

I wear shades at the moment but they are annoying because they mist up, They are scratched to fook as I tend to ride with my visor open when wearing them (dependent on speed) because they are polarising and everything changes colour when my visor is down and I have already lost two pairs through forgetting to do my pocket up.

Ok heres a scenario.

Boy racer has his supped up nova. He has tinted windows. Now, he has limo tint on his side windows (<18% light transmittal) because he thinks its cool. He turns into your path and knocks you off your bike. You go blaming him and his tinted windows. Now his car window area is under the same regulations as your visors, as in they have to allow a minimum of 25% light transmittal. Also, you can not tint the front screen of a car. So why should you be able to effectivly, tint your windscreen on your lid?

If they allow bikers to wear tinted visors on bikes, then the law will effectivly change for Boy racer, allowing him to tint the screen of his nova thus making them even more dangerous! That i think is the wider implicatons of tinted visors.

And thats a good enough reason for you to wear a tinted visor...casue you cant look after your property ;)

I have seen loads of cars with tinted windscreens and they aren't able to swap it with a clear one if the weather goes pear shaped.

I think thats completely irrelivent argument, because you can't switch over you're tinted windows :wink:

Yes for me it is, it's my own stupid fault yes but I'd like to save a little cash and it wasn't the only reason.

Viney Winey? Are you for real lol, take your comments elsewhere winey.

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The law is unchanged....obviously a review of current legislation.....complying to BS4110...(as Rich said)

I doubt the law will change, and i doubt everyone will stop wearing illegal visors..... illegal exhausts and illegal plates...... :wink:

Def not worth losing any sleep over.......

let me get this straight....

more people have done this petition to get tinted visors legal than the one I put up to get better sentencing for the idiots who knock bikers off, run pedestrians over etc etc? :? glad we got our priorities right here :?

Given the preference Id go for a tinted visor given Id rather not be wearing sunnies in an accident.

Btw can someone please clarify what the current law actually is for those of us who moved out the uk for the past 2 years and not needed one since coming back.