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BaggaZee 04-08-05 01:00 PM

Thieving scum
 
If you see a Red van with a rollershutter rear door and a Blue SV in the back, do me a favour & get the registration, or just chop the drivers hands off for me (sorry, all reason has gone)!

Some scum nicked my bike from outside my house in Isleworth, Middlesex last night, the description of the van is from a previous attempt which I only found out about from a neighbour this morning, she disturbed them that time. Apparently it was nicked 10 minutes before I got home.
Sooooo ****ed off.
Any advice on how things go from here & what I'm likely to face?
I've already spoken to the police, insurance & datatag. The best bit of which was being informed that, in the unlikely event that the police find it, I will have to pay them £150 not to leave it there! If I don't, they just tell me where it is & leave?!?!
I appreciate that they have costs to cover but isn't that handled by taxes. Tax the criminals by all means but the victims?!?!

Thoroughly ****ed off. :evil:

northum 04-08-05 01:09 PM

Sorry to hear that. :evil: If I caught someone nicking my bike it wouldn't just be their hands I'd cut off..... and I think that is perfectly reasonable!

Toypop 04-08-05 01:23 PM

Damn it. How much security did they have to bypass to nick the bike?

A guy at work had his bike nicked. I overheard him going mental because the bike had been recovered and was with some garage. They said it was £150 if he wanted the bike back so naturally he wanted to take a look and see what sort of state it was in before paying out as it might have been cheaper to leave it (I think it was an old bike and badly trashed). Believe it or not but they wouldn't let him see the bike unless he paid the £150 up front and apparently they are within their rights to do that.

SVeeedy Gonzales 04-08-05 01:28 PM

That's so poo... hope you get it sorted (and had theft cover? even if it'll never pay out for what the bike meant to you...). Guy I work with had his CB500 stolen. Police called to say they'd found it, then by the time they got someone there to pick it up/check it the thief had ridden off... never to be seen again...

Another reason to dislike van drivers, apart from their lack of driving skills :roll:

kwak zzr 04-08-05 01:33 PM

thiefing ba@tards! sorry to hear this news matey i hate it when someones pride and joy gets stolen! keep ya chin up ar kid! :(

bluebell 04-08-05 02:58 PM

Sorry to hear this. Hope you get it back.

AlanSv 04-08-05 03:03 PM

sounds like a professional job, unless they get caught in the next month, its unlikely you'll see the bike again.

Bar sterwards

BaggaZee 04-08-05 03:17 PM

Cheers all, not a lot to say really is there, I just had to shout somewhere and my colleagues are getting sick of my language today. :?
I just bloody hope I can still afford to run a bike when the dust settles. :cry:

kwak zzr 04-08-05 03:38 PM

alansv is prob right these things are stolen for part's aint they.

Wiltshire7 04-08-05 04:28 PM

soory to hear of ur loss :(

god knows how these people sleep at night.

my mother was conned out of £300 the other day. shes disabled!

how do these poeple live with themselves? how does their head work? how can they smile at someone elses misery?

i agree, cut off more than their hands.

Warren 04-08-05 04:54 PM

id love to shoot these cowboys in the legs :)


several times.

jonboy 04-08-05 05:00 PM

Really sorry to hear this, it's a horrible feeling when scum take what's not theirs. Hope you do get it back though, and they get what's coming to them - what goes around comes around.


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Topper Harley 04-08-05 05:55 PM

out of interest what sort of security did you have?

viner 04-08-05 06:00 PM

Sorry to hear of your loss. I had my naked 2000 sv nicked out of my locked garage back in Sept last year, never even saw a copper after I reported it as everything was dealt with by post!!! Yea Gods!!! Anyway the good news was that my insurance company paid out within 4 weeks of it being nicked and all I lost was something like £500 quid in value as i had paid £3K for it about a year before it was taken and I got £2.5k back.
Now got a K3 pointy S - LOVELLY
Wish you well mate

TC3 04-08-05 06:01 PM

Sorry to hear about the bike....was also wondering what security you had that night?

chutz 04-08-05 06:05 PM

****!!! I think they should have their dangly bits removed with a blunt instrument :twisted:

Last Action Pimp 04-08-05 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiltshire7
my mother was conned out of £300 the other day. shes disabled!

Lets find them and brake their legs

Godikus 04-08-05 06:27 PM

I had a bike nicked back in 2003. my chain snapped while i was out (about 1am ish) rather than push it home 3 miles i got my parents to go to my house and get all my locks and locked it up round the back of some church. went back in the morning to find the police interviewing some guy. bunch of guys had stole his van and loaded my bike into it. the van was hound burnt out and my bike was found in some guys livingroom :shock: it was written off. they had trashed it just hot wiring it. got it started but there was no chain so it wouldn't budge :lol: tits!

so i paid the 150 to get the uplift and the insurance took... 9 MONTHS to pay out. and even then they got my name wrong on the cheque :evil:

Good luck with it!

Dangerous 04-08-05 06:48 PM

I saw what looked like a blue SV left on the grass verge on the A40 between Hillingdon and the Polish this afternoon

Dangerous 04-08-05 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous
I saw what looked like a blue SV left on the grass verge on the A40 between Hillingdon and the Polish this afternoon

Of course it may have just broken down but you never know there was no biker with it

Godikus 04-08-05 06:59 PM

curvy or pointy?

BaggaZee 05-08-05 11:43 AM

Arrgh, was off the forum. I don't suppose it was still there this morning was it Dangerous? Hillingdon isn't too far and as the police said, if they were nicking it for parts they might dump it when they realise that it's Datatagged!

BaggaZee 05-08-05 11:45 AM

With regard to security, apart from the datatagging, it was parked near a streetlight outside my door with an oxford monster lock & chain on it. I hadn't covered it because it was dry (idiot) but then if they've been around before I'm not sure that a cover would have helped.
I lock it to the lamp post when I can get a space by it but not that night. :cry:

MavUK 05-08-05 12:00 PM

Bad luck, all the best with either getting it back, or getting a new one. And of course knee capping the gits.

falc 05-08-05 12:01 PM

Just read this, this sucks massivly. They deserved to get destroyed :evil:

How about we put their faces up against a backwheel rotating at 10krpm? :twisted:

Keep us updated matey

Godikus 05-08-05 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falc
Just read this, this sucks massivly. They deserved to get destroyed :evil:

How about we put their faces up against a backwheel rotating at 10krpm? :twisted:

Keep us updated matey

or put their nuts on your chain and let the bike gently roll forwards!

SpankyHam 05-08-05 01:41 PM

Sorry to hear this! :?

I have a webcam set up as a cctv camera. It runs on motion detection... As soon there is movement It starts recording and playing an alarm through my speakers. Saying that I have my PC running 24/7 but i only have the motion detection on when I'm asleep or at work.

+ My Katana arrived today. (ordered from china 1 month shipping :shock: )

So I'm just waiting for someone trying to steal it. :twisted:

BaggaZee 05-08-05 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickUK
Sorry to hear this! :?

I have a webcam set up as a cctv camera. It runs on motion detection... As soon there is movement It starts recording and playing an alarm through my speakers.

Was this easy to set up? I have a machine running 24/7 & it'd be nice to put my webcam to good use.
Assuming of course I get back on the road any time soon.
I've had a daydream look at bikes out there and if I get the garage sorted this would be quite nice!

http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatiuk/bi...html?model=767

SpankyHam 05-08-05 04:27 PM

Yes very easy to set up.


There's lots of motion detection software on the net. for Free. I even got one with my web cam as a software bundle.

BaggaZee 05-08-05 04:40 PM

Cool, ta. I'll have a look. Whatever I end up getting will be as secure as I can make it, including CCTV.

21QUEST 05-08-05 11:24 PM

You must be gutted :( . If I cought someone nicking my stuff , I think it's fair to say it might be an ugly situation.

Cheers
Ben

timwilky 06-08-05 06:40 AM

When it comes to thieving bike scum. As a kid a mate had his RD250 LC nicked from outside the pub. We had a fairly good idea who was responsible and about 30 of us booze maddened went round to his house. Despite the guys protests of innocence when his shed door was ripped open there was the missing LC with about 5 other dodgy bikes. Missing LC was recovered and the police recovered the other bikes whilst investigating the kicking that this guy took. Nobody was ever charged with sorting this guy out. I read in the local rag that he got 6 months as the police claimed responsibility for solving a spate of motorcyle thefts.

I can understand why kids nick bikes. But I cannot understand professional bike thieves. I assume most do it to supply to the dodgy parts trade. If bikers refused to buy cheap bits from unknown sources surely this trade would cease and hence the requirement to feed the chain.

BaggaZee 08-08-05 10:42 AM

You're absolutely right, despite that fact that a lot of us see biking as a community, a lot just don't give a **** and will happily buy stolen bikes / parts, fairly safe in the knowledge that it's unlikely to ever get scanned for the datatag / alphadot security.
I know I'm extremely unlikely to see it again but why am I nervous about the telephone interview I have with my insurers on Wednesday? What are the chances that they'll be sympatheic & understanding? More likely to be desperately trying to find a way to avoid paying out. If I'm pleasantly surprised I'll let you know! :?
Whilst I'm at it, why do they need a 3rd party company for these interviews and why are they called Brown Sword ?! :shock:

KrZ 08-08-05 10:58 AM

had my bike nicked 2 years ago, insurance took a little longer to sort out, mainly on the best price they can find on the market. i would suggest you to start checking the best price you can get for your bike equivalent, if it is on internet, print them off, if it on paper format, photocopy them and send it to your insurance. i was amazed when i got more then what i have paid for the bike when insurance paid out... mind you, i did gave them higher value of my bike then i paid for to start off with...

BaggaZee 08-08-05 11:10 AM

Naughty, but nice!
Unfortunately I bought mine new. I've got a value from Bike magazine and a mate advised me to ask a dealer for a copy of the Glass guide price.
I'm more concerned about the things like the undertray etc. which I did tell them about on the phone but have no paperwork to prove it. :roll:

SVeeedy Gonzales 08-08-05 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaggaZee
but why am I nervous about the telephone interview I have with my insurers on Wednesday? What are the chances that they'll be sympatheic & understanding? More likely to be desperately trying to find a way to avoid paying out. If I'm pleasantly surprised I'll let you know! :?

Because next to the people who stole your bike, the insurers are the next biggest scumbags in the biking world. They're not all bad, but they'll almost always be looking for the smallest chink in your argument to decide they don't have to pay. An interview sounds nasty (or do they always interview when there's a theft??) as it sounds as if they don't believe you for some reason. Usually they do everything by phone and post.

I'm chasing mine right now, after they decided that £3100 is the market price for a K4 Sv650S right now. So far they're not bothering to acknowledge glass's or any other info out there. They will, but it just takes ages to force them to accept it. They only do it in the hope that you'll be put off/give up.

They'll probably quiz you about security, what you could have done to stop it, etc. so before the interview, make sure you're very certain about the exact security you had in place, that it was all working and being used right, that you did all that you could to stop the theft. If you come acroos like you didn't make much effort they'll try not to pay. Be confident and just tell them what you did to stop it happening, then they have no grounds to not pay you out, fair and square.

And good luck! :thumbsup:


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