Horn
 

My horn works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't. just when I need it??

Any ideas?

Whip it off and give it a clean up. Pay attention to the connection contacts. Clean them all up and the wiring harness end connector as well.

Can you get different Horns?

If so, what types of horns have people got? The little beep beep is a bit naf really....Be good to make it more bellowing......

Just a thought :)

Wheelie

Re: HORN
 

d**m!! it's happening to me too!!!

and is a new one... I guess I shoulld take it to the dealer, but.... it's at the other corner of the ciity and this is london!!!

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Stebel Nautilus

its when the bike gets hot like 95 + mine stops working too.

The Nautilus is pretty big... Couldn't find anywhere to park it on mine. SO I got a pair of FIAMM snail horns instead, they're around £25 (IIRC) from Halfords (packed under the Ring brand) for a Hi and a Lo tone one. £5 extra for a Ring fitting kit to keep things simple, and away we go. Still not as loud as I'd like- I want a sonic cannon that loosens bowels :) But much, much better than stock and straightforward enough to fit.

Stebel Magnum. 136db and smaller than the nautilus, just £14 inc P&P from place below. Only got mine this weekend so will fit it this week and see how it goes...

http://www.nippynormans.com/prodinfo...item=1&mitem=2

how big exactly is it ?

im thinking of getting one - but not sure where i could mount it.

oh its only 9.99 from here
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?pa...urceId=2532804

Bah! And I thought I got it cheap...

The magnum is about the size of a clenched fist... the nautilus is meant to be a bit bigger and nippynormans site hints that they'll only really fit on the biggest Beemers... would be interesting to hear if anyone has got it on an SV.

Another point - the nautilus comes with a relay, the magnum does not, but can be used with a relay. I'll see how I get on without a relay... I don't use the horn that much so I can't see it draining the battery.

urr - whats the relay bit mean ?

My Nautilus is clamped to the right fork leg. I've got a naked '99 with a perspex screen, so I used one of the screen mounts. I dnd't bother using the relay, and I've seen no degredation of the horn switch.

Because these horns use a higher amount of power to make the louder sound it's possible that using it a lot would damage the wiring - too much power too quickly, so the relay gets around that by buidling up the power from the main wiring then releasing it into the horn when there's enough (I don't know the specifics - I'm not an electronics engineer - but it's something like that) and that stops the wiring from getting fried... but as mentioned above, you can get away with it provided your wiring is half decent - or at least, decent enough to take the power surge when the horn is used.

I know that the standard horn location on my SV1000S K3 is directly between the rad and the engine, and its a common problem when the engine and rad get hot for the horn to stop working. I bet iyour horn worked fine once the bike had been left to cool down for half an hour or so.

I fitted a stebel magnum horn inside the right hand fairing (in front of the radiator cap). The steering damper clears it by 10mm. Nice and loud, and can't be seen as it is quite large comapred to the standard one.

You don't need a relay to run the stebel magnum.

Ok, makes sense.... yesterday was a very hot day and this morning the horn was back.

I was thinking on fitting a transatlantic horn in order to do that, but they don't have relays for the sv.... d***m!!!! :twisted:

just bought one :)

I've got one, fits ok, sound is deeper and louder. I think cheapest and easiest upgrade option. Mine was a direct fit, no relay needed on my curvey, about 2 months I've had it and use it for greeting a few dozy folk with great success :)

Connected it up to an ER5 at work this morning. It's way more impressive than the original horn but it's not as loud as I'd secretly hoped... that 136 db is at 4 inches from the horn outlet, so unless you can get the cabbie/ped/BMW driver to stick their ear that close...

The stebel website is at http://www.stebel.it/ for anyone interested in their horns... interesting to see that at 12V the horn pulls up to 6A, and although it's not mentioned on the packaging, it seems that the horn can be run at 24V as well.

For £14 including the P&P from NippyNormans (and the fact that I ordered it at lunchtime on Friday and it arrived on Saturday morning), it's well worth it, and it's totally easy to fit - pull off spade connectors, unsrew existing horn, screw on new horn and reattach connectors. It's much lighter than I thought too - about 250g.

Bah! I tried to fit the magnum this morning - where's it meant to go!? There's no way it can fit in the gap that the original horn goes, behind the radiator! Plus the connectors don't match and will need cutting or replacing... poo! I'm thinking of attaching the magnum to the caphead screw on the frame on the left hand side and leaving the old horn there and fiddling witht he connectors, but then it'll look like a dogs dinner.

Stupid Stebel!

i tried fitting it to my CBR yesterday, just uplugged the old connectors and plug them into the new horn.

but to he honest, its bigger than my old horn and is about the same volume - just sounds a tiny bit more like an air horn, still more or less the same :(

Bikeageboy, it's possible it's not getting enough juice if you've wired it into the stock loom- I found if I tried to connect the FIAMMs I use direct instead of replayed, they made a sort of wet fart noise :)

i dunno- alot of people on the CBR website say that its fine with the standard loom.

|They'd know more about it then me :) Does the CBR have a good stock horn then?

mmm... same problem!!! It arrived two days ago, but I didn't have time until this morning, I saw the gap, looked to the siebel, looked again to the gap... mmmmm.... bu***r!!! does not fit!!! ](*,)


Plus I have the full fairing.... I'm going to have to unscrew all the pannels, try different places and screw them back!! ARg!!! ](*,)

That screw in the frame that holds all the wiring looks as a good candidate.... maybe next weekend... I am at work now.

:cry:

dunno mate - all i know is that its miles better than my suzi GS125's horn

The Stebel Magnum can be located inside the righthand fairing. You can do it without removing any of the fairing panels. When you look at where the radiator cap is, you can see metal fairing support framework with holes drilled along it. You can use one of the holes to attach the fixing plates the magnum comes with.

Process should be:

You will need to attach an additional bit of wire to the horn as the standard horn connectors will not reach. Attach the two metal plates to the back of the Magnum. Situate the horn inside the right hand side of the fairing using a small nut and bolt. Do it up hand tight only. Move handlebars left and right to ensure the magnum clears the steering damper. Then tighten horn fixing plate to the fairing framework.

You can then run the wires back to the original connector (cable tying it to the fairing framework, and use crimped spaded lugs to push into the original connector. Stick some insulation tape around the join, and the jobs done.

You will find that the original connector will pass over the top of the rad, and by using crimped spaded lugs, you can just disconnect the magnum and re-install the original horn as the original connectors will still be there.

PS Helps if you have small hands!

On a curvey model it'll go right where the original was. The connectors just need seperating and will clip right on.

On a pointy I dunno, I don't have one of those...

Pointy as per my post above :D

Mr Beefcake...

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I'll give a go one of this days, if I manage to get out of the office early... or just get out!!!

Ditto! \:D/