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Kylie 07-02-06 07:38 PM

Riding over chevrons?
 
I frequently jump long queues of cars by riding through areas where the road is painted with white stripes bordered by a broken white line. I was surprised to go past a couple of bikes the other day who were queuing rather than drive over the chevrons. Thought I'd see how many people see the chevron areas as their own like me and how many would rather not....

Anonymous 07-02-06 07:42 PM

But under rule 109 on a bike its always necessary :lol:

jonboy 07-02-06 08:13 PM

I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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SVeeedy Gonzales 07-02-06 08:24 PM

Sometimes - but only when it's necessary because the lane is blocked, slow moving, etc. (though I guess that counts as being in a hurry, so...)

Carsick 07-02-06 08:44 PM

When there are people in my way and I consider it safe.

SVeeedy Gonzales 07-02-06 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Carsick
When there are people in my way and I consider it safe.

You consider it safe to ride over people who are in your way? :shock:

mynameis 07-02-06 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Rich
But under rule 109 on a bike its always necessary :lol:

Agreed.

northwind 07-02-06 09:18 PM

Whenever it's safe, I feel like it and there are no Police cars.

Sid Squid 07-02-06 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
...and there are no Police...

This being the important part of the decision making process.

Saint Matt 07-02-06 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
Whenever it's safe, I feel like it and there are no Police cars.

Agree there. By the way my brakcets arrivd the other day, cheers :)

northwind 07-02-06 09:42 PM

I know, your dad told me ;) Is that you back on 2 wheels then?

seedy100 07-02-06 09:44 PM

If its dry then, provided no-ones looking, fair game.

If on the other hand its wet I tend to stay away from any paint.

valleyboy 07-02-06 09:50 PM

well, comparing the stuffs made up of finly grounded glass.... when wet its bloody slippery! had my back wheel spin out on me on a few occasions on overtakes lately :oops:

I cant remember... but Im sure its only the sheverons with solid white lines you arent allowed to cross.. those with broken lines can be crossed.. though watch out, as there may be a traffic island further or other obstruction ahead :wink:

though my mind fails me these days so am probably very wrong :oops:

Saint Matt 07-02-06 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
I know, your dad told me ;) Is that you back on 2 wheels then?

Almost, waiting on levers to come back and indis to be delivered.

mynameis 07-02-06 09:59 PM

109 also states " and that you can see that it is safe to do so". I don't see any problem
as long as this is the case, and have done so with Police present. Chevrons appear to be used to prevent people driving into traffic islands.

Ed 07-02-06 10:17 PM

I ride on them if I need to. I think the law is more positive than negative, i.e, it's OK unless there's good reason to the contrary, rather than it's not OK unless there's a really good justification.

mysteryjimbo 07-02-06 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint Matt
Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
Whenever it's safe, I feel like it and there are no Police cars.

Agree there. By the way my brakcets arrivd the other day, cheers :)

Never stopped me before. Of course its "when safe to do so though" speed rather than the usual 60mph :lol:

northwind 07-02-06 10:49 PM

Riding over Chevrons? Seems a bit harsh, just because he sang More Than Words...

Red ones 08-02-06 06:15 AM

If they are chevrons then the line is solid. There are only broken lines when the lines are diagonal. So the question is inaccurate.

I hate going in them, I remember the car driver who thought he would overtake a couple of cars on the diagonals and couldn't see my brother in a tractor and muck spreader about to turn right across them. Tractor and trailer went over the top of the car. The case went to court, Judge says to car driver "What do you think the road markings are for? Case dismissed"

timwilky 08-02-06 07:05 AM

When riding in this area, remember there tends to be little traffic use and consequently road detrious tends to build up. You also have added danger from slippy when wet markings.

Of course it is a bike only overtaking lane. but at your own risk. By surrounding them with a broken like, the road engineers recognise there is good reason for traffic to enter. Solid lines usually are indicative of an approaching hazard such as the overshoot from an end of lane etc. and therefore there is probably good reason to get out of there fast.

Foey 08-02-06 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by valleyboy
I cant remember... but Im sure its only the sheverons with solid white lines you arent allowed to cross.. those with broken lines can be crossed..



Thats what my other half was told by her instructor when she did her test, so thats my excuse if i ever need to risk skidding about or getting punctures. :wink:

Viney 08-02-06 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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I agree with him ^^^ :shock:

Sudoxe 08-02-06 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Viney
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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I agree with him ^^^ :shock:

Road what now? Oh you mean the slippery white bits.....

Flamin_Squirrel 08-02-06 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sudoxe
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Originally Posted by Viney
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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I agree with him ^^^ :shock:

Road what now? Oh you mean the slippery white bits.....

No Dan, the slippery white bits are road markings.

Moo 08-02-06 09:36 AM

When its safe rational risk and all that. :lol:

hall13uk 08-02-06 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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well said :notworthy:

Spiderman 08-02-06 09:45 AM

All of you are naughty, naughty boys!
I'm telling all your mums, then we'll see whos allowed out to play.


:lol:

hall13uk 08-02-06 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderman
All of you are naughty, naughty boys!
I'm telling all your mums, then we'll see whos allowed out to play.


:lol:


:cry: [-o< :lol:

diamond 08-02-06 10:16 AM

I do it all the time, any one that knows the A303 between Salisbury and Yeovil will know theres miles and miles of single carriagway with an area of chevrons about 2 feet wide down the middle seperating the lanes going each way. Thats my lane, if i didn't use it i might as well be sat in the cage for an hour and a half instead of on my bike for 45 mins.

northwind 08-02-06 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
Riding over Chevrons? Seems a bit harsh, just because he sang More Than Words...

That was a good effort, and how many people got it? I'm so dissapointed.

Scooby Drew 08-02-06 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
Riding over Chevrons? Seems a bit harsh, just because he sang More Than Words...

That was a good effort, and how many people got it? I'm so dissapointed.

I noticed the allusion to something or another but it was all a bit extreme for me...

northwind 08-02-06 03:47 PM

Nice work!

Kylie 08-02-06 06:41 PM

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If they are chevrons then the line is solid. There are only broken lines when the lines are diagonal. So the question is inaccurate.
Well yeah, "Riding over white stripes" would have been a more accurate topic name but it didn't sound right. But it would have made Northwind's gag better.... Thinking about it, I wouldn't want to ride over the white stripes, I reckon I could get over Jack and probably Meg too but I reckon Meg's drumkit would do the bike some damage :shock:

drumwrecker 08-02-06 08:19 PM

Broken white line can be crossed. Where there is a long stretch of hatcing its room for safer overtaking but where traffic doesn't touch the hatching beware of all sorts of debris, it puncture territory.

Iansv 08-02-06 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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ditto... Voted option 4 tho

adamfool 08-02-06 08:51 PM

i read the thread title as "riding over children"....... someting must be wrong with me! :shock:

Ceri JC 10-02-06 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by valleyboy
I cant remember... but Im sure its only the sheverons with solid white lines you arent allowed to cross.. those with broken lines can be crossed.. though watch out, as there may be a traffic island further or other obstruction ahead :wink:

Agreed. They're also often to make space for cars to pull into a "turning off" lane when turning right across a busy road. A lot of cars don't wait for that lane to arrive, but instead cut through the whole chevroned area to get into the turning lane quicker. As usual, be vigilant, ensure there are no coppers about and it's fine.

Just don't absolutely nail it through there, especially in the wet and don't brake hard on them either. There is very little grip.

Jp 10-02-06 10:29 AM

I dont tend to do it in the wet anymore, as my new bike doesnt inpsire confidence while going over road markings for some reason..

Kylie 11-02-06 08:37 AM

Accelerating over chevrons (as opposed to riding) ain't a good idea. Had a serious moment last month overtaking a lorry on some particularly bumpy lines. I opened the throttle and it was tank slapper city. Scary, not sure how I didn't come off, but I think the lorry driver enjoyed it....

Stig 11-02-06 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
I simply ride according to the conditions, and don't pay too much heed to the rules and regs - I don't mean that to sound arrogant, it's just that I believe common sense and experience should always prevail (officer :oops: :lol: ).


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Me too.


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