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Anonymous 21-04-06 09:26 AM

Lock him up... Some people just never learn.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4928590.stm

Babyshambles singer Pete Doherty has been arrested in east London on suspicion of drugs possession only hours after a court appearance.

The singer, 27, was held with another man by plain clothes officers in Roman Road, London E2, on Thursday afternoon.

Scotland Yard said two men were in custody on suspicion of possessing class A drugs with intent to supply.

Doherty earlier admitted seven charges of possessing drugs when he appeared before magistrates in east London.

He was given a community order with two years supervision and 18 months drug rehabilitation and was also banned from driving for six months.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "A 27-year-old man and a 21-year-old man were arrested after a vehicle was stopped in Roman Road, E2, by plain clothed officers who were carrying out a patrol in an unmarked police car.

"They were arrested on suspicion of possessing what was believed to be class A drugs with the intent to supply."


How long can they keep justifiying letting the kid go? Lock him up and chuck the key away. Just cos hes (in)famous doesnt mean he should get better treatment than anyone else.

:roll:

Viney 21-04-06 09:28 AM

Best quote i heard
Quote:

"He has more pople at his court appreances than his gigs"
Made me chuckle.

Lock to fool up...for his own safty and our sanity

_Stretchie_ 21-04-06 09:30 AM

I can honestly say I've never heard of him..

Take him to the tower.... Sorry, wrong thread :lol:

stewboy 21-04-06 09:30 AM

Yes they should hes a complete bell end!



what a nob

Quedos 21-04-06 09:32 AM

Y lock him up he'll get more stuff while in there.

Just execute him nobody will miss him :twisted:

Anonymous 21-04-06 09:33 AM

Alright.. who voted 'NO'??

:shock:

Peter Henry 21-04-06 09:34 AM

Sorry to buck the trend here,but would it not be fair to suggest that the guy obviously needs help? :?

He is not alone either,apparently George Michael these days is surviving on 20 mega spliffs a day. His career looks just about over unless he also gets big help.

timwilky 21-04-06 09:38 AM

I admit to voting no.

It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money. I am informed that more addicts come out of prison than go in.

Instead, let him have his drugs. As much as he can afford. chances are he won't be doing it for too long.

I also subscribe to the far east solution for punishing dealers. Strange how nobody ever reoffends :wink:

Quedos 21-04-06 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky
I admit to voting no.

It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money. I am informed that more addicts come out of prison than go in.

Instead, let him have his drugs. As much as he can afford. chances are he won't be doing it for too long.

I also subscribe to the far east solution for punishing dealers. Strange how nobody ever reoffends :wink:

Like the thinking.

stewboy 21-04-06 09:43 AM

tell you what .....why not put him in a sodding metal suit with just his ... chap hanging out.



so that why if he wants so shoot up ..he has to inject into his chap .......


no that should stop him ......... ( for a while )

Flamin_Squirrel 21-04-06 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by timwilky
I admit to voting no.

It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money.

It would seem he isnt just a user though..

timwilky 21-04-06 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel
Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky
I admit to voting no.

It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money.

It would seem he isnt just a user though..

In which case option 2, the far east solution comes into play. March him out of the court room into the back yard. "I appeal", "Appeal Rejected". Bang.

I get the feeling a few summary executions and most dealers would find honest employment

Tara 21-04-06 09:53 AM

Don't lock him up - just wait til he overdoses

keithd 21-04-06 09:56 AM

i think he's got talent, i've been patient and defended the guy. but enoughs enough. he needs treatment, hopefully he'll get that if he's incarcirated

Peter Henry 21-04-06 09:57 AM

Such charitable thinking abounds on SV.ORG :?


*ducks down in readiness for the rants.*

Valman 21-04-06 09:57 AM

He must be really thick though. He always seems to get caught in east London so you would think he would know better than to hang around the same area with a fair bit of drugs on him only hours after going to court for similar offences. He probably has his own cell at the local police station as well now.

Tara 21-04-06 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithd
i think he's got talent, i've been patient and defended the guy. but enoughs enough. he needs treatment, hopefully he'll get that if he's incarcirated

True

fizzwheel 21-04-06 10:46 AM

I dont think locking him up in prison will do him any good. He doesnt think he's doing anything wrong and he obviously cant stop doing it.

What I think he needs is forcibly putting into a clinic and being made to clean himself up. He then needs to stop hanging around with the toadying morons that make him think he's cooler and more talented than he actually is. Maybe that will be the wake up call he needs.

Sadly I doubt he'll get any proper help and that eventually he'll overdose and then that will be that.

amarko5 21-04-06 11:35 AM

im with tim :thumbsup: shoot him and save the taxpayer some money :wink:


P.S. he is a crap singer anyway :lol:

Supervox 21-04-06 01:01 PM

Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .


. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc

I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:

And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

Filipe M. 21-04-06 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supervox
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

You gotta be kidding! :shock: :wink:

Jelster 21-04-06 01:10 PM

Lee's solution is the answer... Make sure any mony/investments he has are repossesed to make way for his rehab, and his stay at a correctional facility.

Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.

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Biker Biggles 21-04-06 01:14 PM

Still don't know who he is,but I voted no.I think people should be able to take whatever drugs they like and if it kills them so be it.The State's role should be to ensure people are adequatly informed about the dangers,so we can all start taking responsibiliy for ourselves.That way if this tosser takes stuff and does nothing else,who cares?If he takes stuff and commits other criminal acts throw the book at him.(Assuming he can read it :lol:)

Supervox 21-04-06 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelster
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.

There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!

Filipe M. 21-04-06 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Supervox
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelster
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.

There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!

Are u sure about the nuns stuff? :-k No, really...

Supervox 21-04-06 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Filipe M.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelster
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.

There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!

Are u sure about the nuns stuff? :-k No, really...

I did say discovered !! :D

Balky001 21-04-06 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .


. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc

I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:

And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

Nice :shock: :? - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.

Supervox 21-04-06 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balky001
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .


. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc

I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:

And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.

Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?

Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them

Balky001 21-04-06 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Quote:

Originally Posted by Balky001
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .


. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc

I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:

And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.

Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?

Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them

Oh I see, I was talking from an ethical position not a legal one.

Scooby Drew 21-04-06 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Henry
Sorry to buck the trend here,but would it not be fair to suggest that the guy obviously needs help? :?

:stupid:

The laws have been modelled so that you can be prosecuted for dealing if you pass your mate a spliff so that they can have a puff. I doubt if he had enough on him to set up shop. He should be allowed to kill himself as quickly as possible and stop wasting our time & money etc.

tomjones2 21-04-06 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Quote:

Originally Posted by Balky001
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supervox
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .


. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc

I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:

And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!

Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.

Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?

Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them

Sorry to disagree but many countries with heavy penalties for drugs, still have drugs problems - america, thialand for instance. Anyone read "The Damage Done" no human being should be treated like that whether they were trafficing herion or not. Strict controls just tend to push for more professional operations. At present drugs are here and the only way there use will get stopped is by educating users to stop taking them.

I don't condone the use of drugs but a bit of green isn't going to end the world is it. Personlly i think that alcohol and gambling abuse represent bigger problems in our socity than soft drug use ever will after all you don't see 20 strong gangs of stoners tearing up the town do you. Dont get me wrong i don't buy into weed being harmless or non-adictive but there are far worse mind-altering substances that can be bought legally.

As far as i'm aware the vast majority of drugs problems and drug related crime are caused by a small minoirty of regular herion/crack users, which very few people would consider a "recreational" drug.

However mr doherty is making a mockery on the justice system. Rather than sending him down i think i should be forced to enter a secure rehab program (not sure if they egist but they should) where he can get his head straight.

Anonymous 21-04-06 03:27 PM

update
 
Well, guess it was inevitable really:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4931052.stm

He's been bailed. Why dont they hold him in custody just to get the little waster off the streets and away from his customers. :roll:

Iansv 21-04-06 04:25 PM

National Service in Iraq would suit more, why waste taxpayers money on jail, guys a total *****

northwind 21-04-06 04:31 PM

I voted no... It won't help him, it'll just cost us to keep him in. Treatment's cheaper... I can't remember for sure, but I think the courts can offer mandatary residential drug treatment as an alternative to jail time. It's cheaper to fix the problem than to punish the symptoms I reckon.

I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.

Incidentally, alcohol isn't a drug- it's a toxin. It seems like a lot of people don';t like accepting a hangover as a symptom of brain damage... I'm just fine with it. Hic.

Cloggsy 21-04-06 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quedos
Just execute him nobody will miss him :twisted:

Many a true word said in jest :!: :thumbsup:

tomjones2 21-04-06 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.

No doubt about his talent and intelegnce, before he found herion i belive he was on the england junior debating team. Did u see that BBC interview where he was sober, his real personallity started to show through again.

I reckon the libertenies could have done v big things if pete hadn't screwed it all up.

Razor 21-04-06 06:35 PM

Lock him up, setting a bad example for budding junkies all over.

keithd 21-04-06 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tomjones2
Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.

No doubt about his talent and intelegnce, before he found herion i belive he was on the england junior debating team. Did u see that BBC interview where he was sober, his real personallity started to show through again.

I reckon the libertenies could have done v big things if pete hadn't screwed it all up.

praise allah ! two sane people who can see the talent which lies beneath and don't judge him by what they see and read in the tabloids.

i aint denying he's a lot screwed up right now, but surely there's hope? isn't there always hope? execution....? :shock:

Terence 22-04-06 08:58 PM

[quote="Flamin_Squirrel
It would seem he isnt just a user though..[/quote]
Remember... Only users lose drugs

Terence 22-04-06 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
Incidentally, alcohol isn't a drug- it's a toxin.

The difference being?


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