found the sv abit lacking again.
 

i was out yesterday on a short blast and found myself ringing the neck off her rev'ing her really hard, i hope I'm not getting bored because this feeling I'm having usually turns out expensive :?

dosnt mean your bored of her!!! i think the SV is perfect for the road i can garantie you could ride her better keep her!!!! :lol: 8)

Been there four months ago.

Time for an IL4.

It only feels weak on straights though. On tight and twisty roads its quick enough. I just found it had no real go left in it once you get to 70 or 80. I'd swear my 636 does 80 to 140 minutes quicker than the SV does 80 to 100.

dont you find around 80-90ish the usable power has gone? i love the sv @ 50-60-70 mark i find it really usable but after that the torque has gone :wink:

I think that is why I got a thou,

although I probably never rode the 650 to its full potential. I havent been anywhere near the SV1000 limits :D

i find the SV perfect i want to see the roads that i go along not just fly .. :roll: and its so pleasing when u can push a bike right to the limits .... my friend who comes riding with me wil keep up with me on a CBF 500 easy yea ill lose him on the straights but he pushes that bike to the limits and he loves it ... soo much more fun i think,.....

Yeah I got slammed for saying it in a thread a while ago but the roll on from 70 or 80 is no better than a heck of a lot of cars these days. Ok not your 1.6 Focus type things but a lot of the 200bhp or greater hot hatches or these Evo's and Imprezas which chavs can pick up for under £10k now. Cars like that are two a penny around my way.

You open the throttle at those speeds and you can feel it straining against the wind.

Slamming the throttle open at 80 in 2nd gear on my 636 gives pretty similar acceleration to the SV in 1st gear launching off the traffic lights with the front wheel barely touching the ground. Soul destroying to any wide boys in their performance cars that have been tailgating you down a dual carriageway.

But then I find myself not wanting to ride my bike for fear of my licence. The SV will get you points, quicker bikes will get you outright and lengthy bans. You have to ask why you would want more than the SV and what your motivations are.

i found a golf gti leaving me @90ish :roll: he was pulling away and there was nothing i could do :oops:
as for the il4 route i'd like to say ive been there done that but i do like the gsxr600k6 :wink: for me tho it'll prob be an sv1000s or a tuono next.

cant say straight line speed does it for me! love the torque you get from the sv in corners! so much more fun than the bigger bikes.
im keeping mine.
though i will take some challenges from b'racers! lol

what he have under the hood?
my bikes beaten a r32 to 127mph!

the welsh lanes on the sv are great! just the right speed 50-60ish nice and twisty and torque in hand :D

from the lights the sv would kill it but on this occasion it was from about 60ish.

thats what im talking about!

all my friends have il4's...alot faster...and keep on at me to get a PROPER bike! i have way too much fun loosing them on the corners...or suddenly being on their asses out of corners!

sv is too much fun!

always go down a gear or two when this happens!
down one to fly off...down two to invoke some mono wheeled humiliation!

go get a busa then .....

na!

Yeah its the roll-on that does it. I expect it was one of those 200bhp turbo Golf GTI's that have just come out. I have a Clio 182 and from 0-120 my SV would beat it by a country mile but 80 - 120 would be very close. My car has a top speed of 139 so very similar to the SV and once you get to 80 you kind of reach a point where their performance converges. Thats a cheap £13k car that hundreds of 19 year old baseball cap wearing n*bs are driving around here. The SV doesn't offer you enough protection from them.

I came up behind a guy in the Clio owners club on the dual carriageway around here a week ago and he pulled into the inside lane whilst doing about 70 and spanking it and said I came past him like he was stood still....

my mates got a busa and yea its v quick but its well too rounded it reminds me of something thats been melted from the front :wink: its gotta look good too :wink:

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SV650 K2????? in silver!

Thats what I found. I followed Liz up the A303 she was driving my Golf Gti ( 150bhp ) and she was pulling away from me once we got up to 90 or more.

I remember thinking when I drove the Golf that it would be quicker than the SV from 90 onwards it made a lot of power higher up its rev range. It was begining to pull then where the SV I found was begining to run out of puff at that kind of speed.

The SV would still munch the golf up to 80mph though.

The last three cars that beat me on a 60+ run were an m3, diesel 5 series that had been tuned by alpina and my neighbours scooby.

I reckon the sv is still good upto about 120, which is quick enough for me TBH. I too have though the sv is getting a little slow but if I get a quicker bike i'm just going to end up going faster and faster and eventually land in court or a hedge.

Hmm it would be tempting to get a stupidly fast bike for my next one, but I have to say I have only really missed grunt at high speed on very rare occasions, usually I love just whipping other cars around brum centre and on twisty roads in the country. I will be commuting 30 miles on the M40 soon, so I might need some fairings and a larger engine soon. But I can't see me ever straying from twins, because of the noise and the low down torque!

If we cut the BS and all put our wieners back in our pants, then the facts are pretty basic …

The SV has more than enough poke to have fun on the road within the legal limits, its only if one wants to go outside this that the SV is not enough.

That said, if you are getting the aching in your pants, then you need to go the big IL4 route, else you will only end up resenting the SV. I say do it!! :)

big v twin route me thinks :wink:

Sorry to disagree but personally i reckon the sv has got enough poke to have fun way beyond the legal speed limits. I can apreciate why people buy the big il4's but I question how many riders actually can use that much power on the road.

or the big v twins?

I wouldn't use all the power, but I would want the NOISE!!!! :o *droool*
Following a guzzi 1100 through small welsh towns even at slow speeds made me green with envy over the throbbing roar!

I can see a potential customer! Ride an Aprilia big twin, you'll not regret it! The performance handling and noise is awesome! When you're satisfied it's right for you, come and buy my Falco!

Hmm I had a look at the Falso, it does indeed look nice and would be the kind of thing I would get next! I am not looking to upgrade yet at all, but out of interest, why would you sell it? :)

hahaha FALCO sorry :P

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I'm used to big jap sports 4's & I still love my sv650s . Its like a breath of fresh air .
Its way cheaper to run than a big 4 sports bike for a start.
It brings the best out of your riding , as you have limited go , you have to conserve speed & position spot on for over takes etc , rather than just twisting the throttle any time .
Ok Straight line speed is not amazing , however there's enough for the road, to be honest straight line speed does not really do it for me I have done 170 on a big sports bike & it was easy .
Was out yesterday with friends on big jap 4's and led no problem keeping between 90 - 120 ish , ok at 120 there was not much left , but its plenty for the road .
The only crap bit is the dunslips , which let go twice for no apparent reason ....

However saying all of the above the gixxer 600 is a great bike .....

I would go for a gixxer 750 if you can afford one .Done the sportbikes bit , must be getting old but the little sv does it for me at the moment .
Also like the look of Aprillias Falcos which you can pick up for a great price / also got to be worth trying a SV1000?

Cheers Steve

I'd say thats because you are a quicker rider than them, not because your bike is quicker than their's round corners.

Most SS600's handle better than an SV and go quicker in a straight line.

Yeah you aint kidding that the IL4 sports bikes are quicker around corners. I can go into corners at speeds that would scare me on the SV and find I have to adjust my line mid corner because I am turning in too sharp. In comparison the SV is resistant to turning and just wants to go in a straight line.

I don't think there is much difference in 0-60 time because you can only go so quick and keep the front down. In fact I could probably launch off the lights quicker on the SV simply because I can use full throttle in first gear whereas I haven't got the balls to find the limits of that on the IL4 - I tend to launch slowly then hook 2nd before opening her up.

Over 60 though and the IL4's go absolutely ballistic and keep pulling like a train right up to the SV's top speed.

The SV is not designed to "compete" at over 70mph... A number of cars (and almost all (but not every) IL4 600) will beat it on roll on, even when dropping a gear.

While the SV handles well and can keep up with the pack in twisty bits, a well ridden SS600 is more than a match through the tighest bends as the latter has superior suspension and power.

For some the SV is enough, others want to experience more, and as the owner of a FrireBlade (and past owner of a Gixxer 600) I can understand why. Who ever bought a bike and keeps to all the speed limits anyway ?

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Do you reckon the step up to a litre IL4 is worth it?

I am still not satisfied and would like a ZX10R but aside from not having to change down a gear when I want to go quick I wonder if I could realistically ride it any quicker?

what about something like a VFR ?

or an RSV ?

to be honest, i recon i would get bored of an SV after a while.

read in ride mag, that you can pick up a brand new bandit 12 for 5k

or what about the SV1000

i like the twins, my mates buell xb12r is brilliant on the open roads but in town its a nightmare! i was reading quiffs post about his new tyres i'll prob do that for this summer its cheaper :wink:

Absolutely... Though I'd say it's easier to ride the SV reasonably quick on twisty roads than a modern IL4, since the inverior handling is well balanced against the ease of use. Most riders don't use the handling potential that's there, so the total perforance is les of an issue- but it's much easier to give yourself a scare on teh throttle of an IL4 than an SV, for the simple resaon that there's twice as much power there than you can scare yourself with.

2 equally skilled riders, familiar with the machines? Any modern sports bike in standard trim will take a standard SV apart.

I'm with steveg on this.The SV is strangely more satisfying to ride most of the time than a big il4.That's because the big bike can't be used to it's potential except in very rare circumstances and is therefore frustrating for the rider.

One of the things that v-twins can be quite poor at is making it easy to NOT dump the power down. Huge torque at 3k rpm is a pain in the backside on cold tyres on a wet, greasy roundabout in Fabruary... At least with the IL4 you can keep the revs down and with it the power/torque, thus making it easier to ride.