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akbarhussain 08-06-06 07:43 AM

Musab al-Zarqawi killed in Iraq
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5058304.stm

lol at 'The leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq'. Just lol.

Moo 08-06-06 07:54 AM

A sad loss some where.

Richie 08-06-06 07:59 AM

That will put the Cat amongst the Pigeons...

Viney 08-06-06 08:01 AM

'sup Akbar. I hope that you are well.

AS for him...well, will this be an end to it? I always thought that Ossy was the head of Al-quieda

timwilky 08-06-06 08:06 AM

OK he got his martyrdom and has now got his virgins.

The problem being that you cannot simply cut off the head and expect the body to die. They tend to thrash about a bit first, so expect even more atrocities to be committed in that poor country before it sees peace

rpwoodman 08-06-06 08:09 AM

It would be good if this did calm things down a bit - one does get the impression that there is a certain degree of incitement going on over there, and that's without the American soldiers showing ignorance to the locals (no offence to the US users of the site).

Does anyone know how the rebuilding effort is going? Some time ago, I saw that lots of people don't have decent water supplies or sewerage facilitys, but it wasn't getting rebuilt because it was too dangerous. I wonder if that's changed. People may be happier with the troops being there if they could see things getting better for them and their children.

Demonz 08-06-06 08:16 AM

Loved this quote "The prime minister urged Iraqis to join politcal dialogue rather than violence, vowing to "carry on on the same path... by killing all the terrorists".

akbarhussain 08-06-06 08:29 AM

Hello Viney, i'm very well thankyou. Hope you're all good!

TBH, I don't believe that the loss of this guy is in any way going to affect the situation in Iraq. Me thinks the whole 'leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq' is a bit of campaign to involve people in the whole terrorist threat campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040900890.html

I really don't buy the 'we've liberated Iraq for the people, now we just need to get rid of these few terrorists that are wreaking havoc'. Apparently, around 1000 Iraqi civilians are dying each month in the violence. How are 1000 civilains even involved in the violence each month if they are happy with the new liberated Iraq?

That'll be the Iranian backed terrorists creating the havoc then, lol.

tricky 08-06-06 09:15 AM

Apparently the contracts for "Rebuilding Iraq" where in place with US companies long before any US soldiers set foot in the country. :roll:

akbarhussain 08-06-06 09:17 AM

Tricky, I think you're right....... probably September 12th 2001 :lol:

Spiderman 08-06-06 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by akbarhussain
Tricky, I think you're right....... probably September 12th 2001 :lol:

Dont be so silly Akbar! Why be so full of silly notions.

It was clearly september 10th 2001. Forward thinking and all that :lol:

akbarhussain 08-06-06 09:56 AM

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Dont be so silly Akbar! Why be so full of silly notions.

It was clearly september 10th 2001. Forward thinking and all that
lol Spiderman, I don't doubt it :lol:

Balky001 08-06-06 09:57 AM

Akbar, that's an interesting Washington Post article. I too believe al-Zarqawi's death will have little impact on peace although may fuel a few angry demo's/acts. The only path to freedom for the Iraqi people is funding, rebuilding and true empowerment. That may be a long way off.

1000 people are killed every month, that's over 30 a day every single day, month on month. It must affect almost every family there

akbarhussain 08-06-06 10:20 AM

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The only path to freedom for the Iraqi people is funding, rebuilding and true empowerment. That may be a long way off.
I agree Balky, but for this to realise I feel that 'true empowerment' will come only from true self-rule. And I can't see this ever happening now.

The artcile from Washington Post I feel really backs up what is happening - the US are still using Iraq to further their own aims throughout the world i.e. linking Iraq to Al Queda (which they tried to do before WMD, but were laughed out of the playground) and keep the terrorist threat alive.


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1000 people are killed every month, that's over 30 a day every single day, month on month. It must affect almost every family there
Honeslty, it sickens me. 1000 people dying every month, and yet we are still being force fed the same garbage about 'pockets of resistance' and 'small minority of insurgents' that are causing the problem.

1000 dying every month - who are the terrorists again???

Akula 08-06-06 10:38 AM

Their was a tv prog on last week looking at the rebuilding of Iraq, and the contractors carrying out the work. I was DISGUSTED and dismayed at the quality of work or lack of it being carried out. Not just U.S contractors but Danes, Brits, countries from all over the world Reaping the HUGE profits and basically jerry building, poor workmanship and quality of materials. Unfortunately alot of it is also Red Tape. I really do feel for the innocents caught up in this.

Ohh btw glad hes been bumped off, but prob wont make any difference.

akbarhussain 08-06-06 11:04 AM

Wonder if he is really dead and buried this time...... or just more lies and propaganda. Funny how these 'good news /feel good factor' reports all seem to come when GW's popularity is low. Hmmmmm:

Nov. 20, 2005 18:45 | Updated Nov. 20, 2005 21:01 Report: al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul

Cleric says al-Zarqawi died long ago :Saturday 17 September 2005

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Killed in Matador:May 11, 2005

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed in Falluja:November 08, 2004

AL-ZARQAWI DIED ON FRIDAY:02-Jun-05 13:36

Ed 08-06-06 11:19 AM

I have mixed feelings on this. State executions are never an answer to anything. I passionately abhor the so-called 'death penalty'. But I can't help but feel that the world is a better place without some people, this man included. Whether it will calm the situation in Iraq - well, who knows.

sharriso74 08-06-06 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed
I have mixed feelings on this. State executions are never an answer to anything. I passionately abhor the so-called 'death penalty'. But I can't help but feel that the world is a better place without some people, this man included. Whether it will calm the situation in Iraq - well, who knows.

Agreed bombing millitant leaders has worked oh so well in Palestine hasn't it.

akbarhussain 08-06-06 11:45 AM

Do people really believe that al-Zarqawi is responsible for everything that has been laid at his feet in Iraq?

I agree, the guy is probably not the friendliest person you could ever meet and i'm sure he has done some bad things. But do people really believe that he is a Terrorist mastermind working to defeat the infidels of the west as the majority of news reports spell out?

It is quite convinient that this fits in nicely with GW's war on Terror (Al Qaeda in Iraq, lol). Remember those stories (that again, have since being proven fictisious) of how 99.9% of the insurgents were foreigners, attempting to overthrow the peaceful Iraqi government? Seriously, its quite laughable.

gudster 08-06-06 12:03 PM

good riddance to barbaric scum

Peter Henry 08-06-06 12:07 PM

Ignore the politics,forget the religion, forget the reasons why.

The amount of wanton loss of life,(the majority of whom it seems are innocents) is a total disgrace to mankind. :?

akbarhussain 08-06-06 12:17 PM

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Ignore the politics,forget the religion, forget the reasons why.

The amount of wanton loss of life,(the majority of whom it seems are innocents) is a total disgrace to mankind.
I agree with you whole heartedly Peter Henry.

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good riddance to barbaric scum
No, it was Zarqawi that is meant to have died, not GW.

sharriso74 08-06-06 12:27 PM

GW is just a puppet

http://upload4.postimage.org/355292/images.jpg

akbarhussain 08-06-06 12:29 PM

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GW is just a puppet
Correct. But still part of the barbaric, terrorist scum.

gudster 08-06-06 12:42 PM

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No, it was Zarqawi that is meant to have died, not GW.
typical anti-amerikkkan L3 moonbattery.
moral equivocation of the highest order.
you could be watching too much BBC news/reading too much independent/guardian, my friend.
GW was voted in as leader of the most libertarian nation on earth... and the democrats may get in next time , if thats what the ppl prefer.
get over yourself.

lukemillar 08-06-06 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by akbarhussain
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GW is just a puppet
Correct. But still part of the barbaric, terrorist scum.

My girlfriend and I drove across the States last year. Aside form being an amazing trip, it was a real eye opener, especially middle America. Being British, we were always very welcome and people were friendly, though inevitably the war in Iraq always cropped up in conversation (esp. since the Tube bombings had happened a week earlier), and were surprised how pro war people were/are.

We got talking to this one kid in Kansas about the the situation, who came up with the line:

"I don't know why they can't stop bombing everyone and just sort their own country out"

Both Kate and I thought, at last, someone with some sanity (we thought he was talking about USA!) :lol: Though rather worringly he wasn't :?

One other thing......Fox News WTF!!! :shock: The rather shocking blend of biased news and entertainment. Many a time did I want to lob the TV out the window. If people watch this sh*t then you begin to understand why peoples opinions are like they are.

Jabba 08-06-06 12:48 PM

Religeon and Politics in the same thread :smt014

akbarhussain 08-06-06 12:58 PM

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typical anti-amerikkkan L3 moonbattery.
moral equivocation of the highest order.
you could be watching too much BBC news/reading too much independent/guardian, my friend.
GW was voted in as leader of the most libertarian nation on earth... and the democrats may get in next time , if thats what the ppl prefer.
Hahahahahhahahahahaha!!! You're trolling right?



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get over yourself.
Ok, but only when you learn to think for yourself.

gudster 08-06-06 12:58 PM

[quote="akbarhussain"]
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Correct. But still part of the barbaric, terrorist scum.
...or am i to understand that you aint some leftwing-liberal moonbat, but rather that your loyalties actually lie with the Ummah ?
.... either way,... anything other than democratic Western Civilization.

akbarhussain 08-06-06 01:01 PM

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or am i to understand that you aint some leftwing-liberal moonbat, but rather that your loyalties actually lie with the Ummah ?
.... either way,... anything other than democratic Western Civilization.
I don't particularly like what you're implying there. Although it did take me a while to decipher your collection of words.

You do realise that the US is the biggest offendor in the world when it comes to state sponsored terrorism don't you?

Peter Henry 08-06-06 01:03 PM

I just know this thread is gonna turn all nasty........ :?

Flamin_Squirrel 08-06-06 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Henry
I just know this thread is gonna turn all nasty........ :?

*Steals PHs cookies*

akbarhussain 08-06-06 01:05 PM

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I just know this thread is gonna turn all nasty........
Lol Peter Henry...... some people do struggle to keep things civil.

Although Gudster may be some time returning. Apparently he's gone off looking for WMD im Iraq.
:wink:

Peter Henry 08-06-06 01:06 PM

FS wrote:

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*Steals PHs cookies*
What did I tell you!! :? :?

gudster 08-06-06 01:07 PM

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Hahahahahhahahahahaha!!! You're trolling right?

Ok, but only when you learn to think for yourself.
Perhaps youre the one with the anti-US groupthink mindset.

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gudster 08-06-06 01:14 PM

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Although Gudster may be some time returning. Apparently he's gone off looking for WMD im Iraq.
sorry to disappoint you.
no need to look for WMDs... likely that all went to Syria.

Keep on with the smug cliches, won't ya?

Filipe M. 08-06-06 01:15 PM

*grabs popcorn, invites Peter Henry, and sits back watching until someone locks the thread*

The Basket 08-06-06 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Filipe M.
*grabs popcorn, invites Peter Henry, and sits back watching until someone locks the thread*

Just say Hull KR 3 times and Peter Henry will appear.

Peter Henry 08-06-06 01:17 PM

Filipe...Ok I have a handful, let's play 3 pointer basketball shots in to the mouth. Your turn first! :P


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