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swamp 02-07-06 10:51 AM

Turning the bike around on its side stand
 
My friend does this all the time with his big ass crusier that weighs 2x the SV. I can't seem to do this but he makes it look easy and he did show me with my bike once :shock:

Does anyone else do this. Can be handy in a tight spot. Is it safe ? Can the stand break or be weakened ? He says not and has done this for years. He's an experienced biker with 30+ years riding.

I am scared the bike will flip off the stand as its almost upright on the SV and not forward enough IMHO

Scoobs 02-07-06 11:04 AM

Jelster does it, but then he's just a big showoff.

kwak zzr 02-07-06 11:07 AM

the sv is only 169kgs but i WOULD drop it.

Itching 2 go 02-07-06 11:14 AM

yeah I do it from time to time, not a regular thing tho as it can weaken the stand ans decuring bolt. not really a common thing for it to break but would never try it on anything heavier than my TLR

muddycoffee 02-07-06 12:06 PM

The Kickstand Twist

I do it regularly when turning the bike to get it out of my secure parking space. However you need to get the technique spot on or you might strain the sidestand (mentioned above) or hurt your back.

As you are basically pivoting the bike on the side stand then you shouldn't need to bend the stand or damage the bike at all.

While the SV is considered a very light bike it is still a hell of a weight. When I dropped mine I couldn't lift it up again without assistance. And I am a massive hulking strong brute. I reckon it weighs 26stones, probably more with a full tank. Before you attempt it you have to consider, a big fat bloke like Robbie Coltraine or Johnny Vegas. Do you have enough body mass and strength in your own body to tip one of them up on a wheelchair or a seesaw.

Jabba 02-07-06 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by muddycoffee
I reckon it weighs 26stones, probably more with a full tank. Before you attempt it you have to consider, a big fat bloke like Robbie Coltraine or Johnny Vegas. Do you have enough body mass and strength in your own body to tip one of them up on a wheelchair or a seesaw.

I lifted upright a dropped full-dress Police Pan European on my Bikesafe course.

It's a question of technique as well as strength/mass.

Jelster 02-07-06 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobs
Jelster does it, but then he's just a big showoff.

:shock: Scoobs, I never thought you would have said such a thing.... :lol:

To be honest, it's very easy on my 'Blade as the balance is just right. I can do it with an SV (I did it with my K5 naked before... oh yeah, another story) and I do it all the time as I have to spin the bike in my garage.

If you're at AR06 I'll be happy to give you a few pointers..... (as long as you get me on video, as I'm a big show off, remember).

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Scoobs 02-07-06 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelster
I'm a big show off, remember.

I bloody knew it! :lol:

Quiff Wichard 02-07-06 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jelster
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobs
Jelster does it, but then he's just a big showoff.

:shock: Scoobs, I never thought you would have said such a thing.... :lol:

To be honest, it's very easy on my 'Blade as the balance is just right. I can do it with an SV (I did it with my K5 naked before... oh yeah, another story) and I do it all the time as I have to spin the bike in my garage.

If you're at AR06 I'll be happy to give you a few pointers..... (as long as you get me on video, as I'm a big show off, remember).

.

I will video you jelster--! noprobs

(must remember to pack my wide angle lens)

wheelnut 02-07-06 07:22 PM

Most dealers I have visited do it all the time in the showrooms

Stu 02-07-06 08:01 PM

Used to do it all the time on my moped right up until it broke off.
Won't be doing it on my SV

Warren 02-07-06 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt
Quote:

Originally Posted by muddycoffee
I reckon it weighs 26stones, probably more with a full tank. Before you attempt it you have to consider, a big fat bloke like Robbie Coltraine or Johnny Vegas. Do you have enough body mass and strength in your own body to tip one of them up on a wheelchair or a seesaw.

I lifted upright a dropped full-dress Police Pan European on my Bikesafe course.

It's a question of technique as well as strength/mass.

ive picked up my bike with one hand :) im only 5'5

its a question of technique.

swamp 02-07-06 10:05 PM

Well, I can pivot the bike on its side so its balanced laterally no problem but then I have trouble because the weight is still on the front wheel and its not pivoted front to back if you get my meaning. So I cannot seem to lift the front wheel enough to do the spin.

I guess some bikes are easier if their centre of gravity is close to the side stand pivot point ?

Captain Nemo 03-07-06 08:21 AM

dead easy on the sv, and now i do it with my kwak zrx12, coniderably heavier than the sv but still easy to do,
its more about technique than brute strength, but then i have no technique.
brute strength wins over technique every time :twisted:

Devil Biccy 03-07-06 10:05 PM

Seen loads of people down from the Ace do it on Firith st but never been tempted to try incase I drop the nike then it would be
a) embarrasing
b) Expensive
c) succeded once and I'll wnat to try again and again

Better just to manouver or paddle

Ping 04-07-06 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddycoffee
While the SV is considered a very light bike it is still a hell of a weight. When I dropped mine I couldn't lift it up again without assistance. And I am a massive hulking strong brute. I reckon it weighs 26stones, probably more with a full tank. Before you attempt it you have to consider, a big fat bloke like Robbie Coltraine or Johnny Vegas. Do you have enough body mass and strength in your own body to tip one of them up on a wheelchair or a seesaw.

:lol: I'm a 5'4 girlie and I've lifted my sv back up on my own after it fell over. :D

keithd 04-07-06 10:19 AM

i've seen this done and have to say i'm in quiet awe of those who've got the knack.

much like chaps and chapesses who work with bikes on a daily basis, the speed they wheel them about is impressive. i teeter and totter about like an octagenarian on extacy when i have to manouervere my bike anywhere.

BigDog 07-07-06 12:30 AM

I had to do it last week, i had the car on the drive with the bike behind it and not enough room to go back and forth also I have just had spinal surgery so I couldnt lift anything heavy so I just leant it over onto the stand with my brother inlaw taking the weight and spun it

Tris 07-07-06 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt
I lifted upright a dropped full-dress Police Pan European on my Bikesafe course

Was that because you knocked it over when the copper wasn't looking and found youself gifted with super human strength making sure it was back on its stand before he turned round after eating his doughnut :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anonymous 07-07-06 06:53 AM

would love to be able to do it as it looks so cool. not to cool if you drop it though. have mastered the art of picking up bike. dropped er5 on my das 17 times in one day by end of day i was picking it up really easily.

dirtydog 07-07-06 07:36 AM

i have tried it a few times but have no idea how i'm meant to be doing it and am too scared of dropping the daytona so i don't even try now

Warthog 07-07-06 02:53 PM

I am fairly sure the important thing is to firmly put your foot to the rear of the sidestand when you do it, to keep it fully out, or else you might pull hte bike off it. The mechanic showed me how to do it to lift the rear wheel off the ground to oil the chain :shock:


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