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zunkus 26-08-06 12:37 PM

Take an SV from London to Scotland by Train
 
Take an SV from London to Scotland by Train

I have read in an old issue of bike magazine that you could take a bike on a train up to Scotland to get there nice and fresh and avoid riding the M6 pain. Does anybody know anything of this or can give me a link to the subject?

Spiderman 26-08-06 12:46 PM

This is the best link ive found so far
http://www.seat61.com/Motorail.htm

hth :D

P1PRX 26-08-06 01:06 PM

would be really interested if this is possible... I woul dlove to bike the highlands... but not the 9 hours up the M6

zunkus 26-08-06 01:20 PM

I've made my query to the TheManIn@seat61.com
I'll get back to you on their reply. They said that it may take a while to get a reply so don't hold your breath. Any more ideas guys?

the white rabbit 26-08-06 01:40 PM

I may be wrong but I thought motorail had died a death here some years ago :(

Biker Biggles 26-08-06 01:49 PM

I thought motorail was gone as well.I used to take my bike on the train betwwen London and Newcastle but that was donkey's years ago when there used to be a guards van on the stopping train.I never booked anything,and just turned up with the bike,asked the guard what the score was and always got on ok.I had a ticket,but was never charged for the bike.It was a Ducati Desmo so maybe they just liked me.There's probably loads of policies that say you can't do that now though.

Nekkid 26-08-06 02:25 PM

I don't even know if it's possible, but I reckon if it is it would probably be cheaper to send the bike by courier and fly!

FG1 26-08-06 03:24 PM

I'll ride it up there for you if you buy me an air ticket back to Heathrow. :)

lynw 26-08-06 03:58 PM

pah!!! call yourselves bikers? Half the enjoyment is taking the time to see places. :wink: :lol:

Im about to take the SV up to Scotland next month. The trick is to ride at your own pace [and not necessarily use the M6 either] and take plenty of breaks.

I'll be heading up the A1 then turning off to head up the A68 rather than follow the A1 round the coast.

I'll let you know how I do since Im heading up on the Friday, to do a 4 day tour round Scotland and back on the following Friday. :lol:

Or simply consider if theres places to hire bikes IN Scotland?? And fly directly there? :wink: :P :lol: Im sure someone in the Ecosse Posse would know.

the_runt69 26-08-06 04:43 PM

You cant take a bike on the train now as they are regarded as hazardous and not safe for general trains (petrol= explosive) will have to check whether Motorrail still exists but dont think so. will do when I get to work tonight.

H

Coddy_SV1000Z 26-08-06 05:07 PM

lynw - watch out for the speed cameras on the a68 wehn you head over the border, lovely road the 68 with all the blind summits and dips

Anonymous 26-08-06 08:45 PM

quite a few places hire bikes up here. cupar motorcycles do it but i dont know about prices.

have done scotland to surrey in between 7 and 8 hours which is 450 miles. its not fun but not that bad. i just keep to m6 as i get lost all the time. its not exactly exciting journey but the roads in scotland make up for the boredom

suicidesam 26-08-06 11:18 PM

A good friend of mine stays down in Teeside, visits back home quite a lot on the bike now.. will not use the motorway, A68 all the time now.. He used to hate that road when he came up in the car.

the_runt69 27-08-06 07:40 AM

Update from Work last night, Motorail dont exist in this country anymore so there is no chance of getting your bike on a train to Scotland.

H

mburnstead 27-08-06 10:56 AM

Just avoid the motorway then, and treat the journey up there as part of the trip.
It's no different to a European trip really, it's a long day's ride to get to the best bits of Southern France too!

jim@55 27-08-06 12:37 PM

i think cupar suzuki will do bike hire ,an sv /bandit was about £70 a day last time i enquired 8)

Jdubya 28-08-06 06:52 PM

A few of us are heading to scotland this weekend (M25/M11/A14/A1/A68...) this weekend (1sept)...will post pics and stuff when we get back :wink:

Cam_73 28-08-06 08:46 PM

Hehe, yes, do it!

Was up that way last weekend.

Up the A82 from Glasgow, to Fort William.

Out to Kyle of Lochalsh then a whole weekend on Skye.

Here's the good bit.....

Skye Largest Western Isle...
Population 14,000 ish
Rozzers........4!!
Sunday mornings, roads quiet, locals all at the church.

NICE!!

Shhh don't tell everyone! :D

Cronos 28-08-06 09:29 PM

If you want to hire then have a look at Cupar's site for prices.

Personally I'd be taking the A1 / A68 option. :wink:

northwind 29-08-06 05:46 PM

I just came back from Reading and it turns out there's not even space for a rucksack and a tent on a modern train, never mind a bike :roll:

Ceri JC 29-08-06 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
I just came back from Reading and it turns out there's not even space for a rucksack and a tent on a modern train, never mind a bike :roll:

...And I've just come back from Leeds. We should have swapped tickets and gone to the festivals nearer to us mate. :)

I went by bike though. Plenty of space for all manner of camping paraphenalia on that, provided you're prepared to get inventive with your luggage.

chazzyb 29-08-06 06:16 PM

Won't it go in the guard's van any more then? :lol:

zunkus 30-08-06 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynw
pah!!! call yourselves bikers? Half the enjoyment is taking the time to see places.
I'm about to take the SV up to Scotland next month. The trick is to ride at your own pace [and not necessarily use the M6 either] and take plenty of breaks.
I'll be heading up the A1 then turning off to head up the A68 rather than follow the A1 round the coast.

Hey hold on lass, the only reason that I was thinking of taking the train was that mainly I wanted to tour Scotland for now and since I'm booking a bike for only a week taking a day to get there (I'm going to the lakes first but that doesn't count) is a waste.

Good luck to you Lynw! Be sure to take a digital camera and take plenty of pictures. Take a note of your route and then let me know ok. Be my little scout :)
So you think going up the A1 is better than the M6? I was advised not to take the A1! I'm open to suggestions, plenty of time to change ideas as to where to go yet.

I know the A68 is a great roller coaster ride 'cause I read an article on 'BIKE' about them taking it and one of the riders almost shat in his pants as some turns come to you quick after a crest and catch you unawares! So be careful. I'm dying to take that road, not literary of course, :) so I was thinking of coming back down from Scotland through it or maybe the A7 which is nice as well as they say.

Be sure to take the A82. I've read that it's the best road in Britain.

lynw 30-08-06 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zunkus
Hey hold on lass, the only reason that I was thinking of taking the train was that mainly I wanted to tour Scotland for now and since I'm booking a bike for only a week taking a day to get there (I'm going to the lakes first but that doesn't count) is a waste.

Its ok I was just kidding on that first bit... :wink: :lol:

Seriously I think your best bet would be to fly to Scotland and hire from there and detour down to the lakes. That avoids the day trip to/back if you hire in London.

Quote:

Good luck to you Lynw! Be sure to take a digital camera and take plenty of pictures. Take a note of your route and then let me know ok. Be my little scout :)
So you think going up the A1 is better than the M6? I was advised not to take the A1! I'm open to suggestions, plenty of time to change ideas as to where to go yet.

I know the A68 is a great roller coaster ride 'cause I read an article on 'BIKE' about them taking it and one of the riders almost sh4t in his pants as some turns come to you quick after a crest and catch you unawares! So be careful. I'm dying to take that road, not literary of course, :) so I was thinking of coming back down from Scotland through it or maybe the A7 which is nice as well as they say.

Be sure to take the A82. I've read that it's the best road in Britain.
Easter was the Visordown tour at the lakes. This involved taking the SV up to the lakes and staying at Penrith. Unfortunately I lost top gear so spent Sunday as pillion - but the back road into Scotland via Kielda water is excellent [Sundays ride was to Hawick via Kielda water and back via St Marys loch. Roads I recommend provided youre sensible and pre-empt the suicidal sheep].

I rode the A7 to Edinburgh on the Monday ok but didnt venture too far for the rest of the week due to not being too sure on the gearbox. Again a good road to do.

However it survived the A68 and A1 down to Kent. If you do the A68 stop at Carter Bar - provided it isnt misty or rainy [as it was the day we came back] its a fab view.

But I will post route and pics when I get back. Provided I can find the damn cable for the camera. :oops:

zunkus 04-09-06 12:38 PM

You're right guys. Seems like they don't do motorcycle transport on rail anymore. So I'm now thinking of renting a bike from Scotland and start off from there. I've sent out a couple of emails to some Scot rental companies but none got back to me yet. Do you have any links to Scot bike rental Northwind? I'd like to rent an SV650s if possible. I found guys who rent Guzzi's and BMW's but not my cup of tea. Is it that hard to rent an SV up there?

northwind 04-09-06 01:40 PM

Haven't a clue, but I think someone mentioned Cupar Motorcycles?

instigator 04-09-06 02:04 PM

http://www.cupar.co.uk/bikehire.htm

Funnily enough :P No sv's though but could be worth a phone call to make sure.

zunkus 04-09-06 02:12 PM

Thanks Northwind, totally forgot about that one. Just sent an email now so lets see their reply. They mention they've got SV's and Fazers. If we get Sv's it'll be great. I'm really looking forward to this trip. Might extend the duration to 10 days as the more I read about your country the more I wanna see. Its addictive stuff this touring thing. If you wanna suggest some cool place or B&B let me know ok. One question, what do they mean when they say that this B&B is biker friendly? Does it imply that some of them just won't except biker travellers? I hope I don't get to a place where I can't find a roof for the night! Can't afford to carry a tent as I'm trying to keep us light.

northwind 04-09-06 02:37 PM

Could mean anything really... B&Bs in scotland are quite often run by demented old ladies with more cats than teeth, so pretty much anything can happen ;) If you take a wee look at the route that the essex boys laid out for last weekend (in SV Ecosse), that's a good flying highlights route... Nutty's wibbly wobblies, Glencoe, the duke's pass, and loads of good a-roads inbetween.

lynw 20-09-06 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zunkus
Thanks Northwind, totally forgot about that one. Just sent an email now so lets see their reply. They mention they've got SV's and Fazers. If we get Sv's it'll be great. I'm really looking forward to this trip. Might extend the duration to 10 days as the more I read about your country the more I wanna see. Its addictive stuff this touring thing. If you wanna suggest some cool place or B&B let me know ok. One question, what do they mean when they say that this B&B is biker friendly? Does it imply that some of them just won't except biker travellers? I hope I don't get to a place where I can't find a roof for the night! Can't afford to carry a tent as I'm trying to keep us light.

Ill do a proper write up with pics elsewhere but I cant recommend hiring a bike in Scotland enough if its a possibility.

Kent to Rosyth took me just short of 10 hours with 4 stops and I wasnt really hanging about either. Needless to say I ached by the end of it - I did spot a blue curvy SV going past in Jedburgh but I was laying on the floor at that point unable to face the hour and a bit more I had to go. :oops: :lol:

I cant recommend going up to the Highlands enough either - though you need to be very aware of fuel ranges and fuel stops [some highland garages stay closed on sundays] and the fact the "main" roads up there are single track roads where you can have interesting encounters with sheep, goats and cattle.

I can honestly say Scotlands scenery and roads are as good as I have encountered in the Alps, Black Forest and Ardennes. :D


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