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hovis 19-09-06 06:50 AM

camera
 
since buying my bike & getting the internet at the same time ive got a bit carryed away mainly on ebay :evil: ....anyway now i need a digital camera, but dont fancy ebay? i have been told that 2-3 pixel is best for loading to computer as more than this takes to long &the quality will be the same is this right? wot should i pay(as much as i can afford, i hear you cry :? ), i have a nokia 6310 at the mo(i droped my sony in work :( ...wot about a camera phone?

hovis 19-09-06 06:57 AM

p.s. wot other things are important when buing one ?

Apophes 19-09-06 06:58 AM

the higher the pixel count the better the quality
you can always take pix at a lower rate.
as for cam phones i have a sonyerricson k750i which has a 2mb pixel count

this was taken with my phone
http://upload4.postimage.org/1180394/DSC00348.jpg

Beenz 19-09-06 08:09 AM

Contrary to popular belief, pixel coint is not the most important factor. All pixel count gives you in the ability to print bigger impages before pixellation. Most 2 or 3MP are fine for printing 6" x 4" images just fine. You still have to reduce the size to fit the whole image on a PC screen running 1024 x 768.

Most important thing is the lens and exposure system. Note that generall more pixels means smaller pixels that tend to result in higher noise levels. Last year the optimum was about 5Mp for a compact camera. I guess that this figure has increased now to 6 or 7Mp.

If your going to use it in bright light you may want a 'real' optical viewfinder as the screens on the back are hard to see in thses conditions.

Ignore digital zoom as a feature. Optical is much better, it does not degrade the image.

Size, if you want to carry it about on the bike it has to fit in a pocket.

Camera phones are getting better but still lag somewhat behind a basic compact camera but are really good for the snaps when you don't wish to carry another thing about with you. Get one with a flash for lower light. They are really convenient devices.

That my 50p worth.

To save money, get someone else to take the photos :lol:

Personally I prefer film :shock: But I am old so I have an excuse :lol:

hovis 19-09-06 08:35 AM

thanx for the advice :wink:

Viney 19-09-06 08:38 AM

Nikon Coolpix are amongst some of the best Point and shoot cameras. Jessops have the P3 on sale at the mo, (5.1MP, 5x optical zoom etc) Good camera for £170.

You would be hard pushed to find a 2mp camera nowadays. Id aim for a 3-5mp camera.

hovis 19-09-06 11:27 AM

argos do a nice pink one £15 3000pix :shock:

i only got about £50

Sudoxe 19-09-06 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney
Nikon Coolpix are amongst some of the best Point and shoot cameras. Jessops have the P3 on sale at the mo, (5.1MP, 5x optical zoom etc) Good camera for £170.

You would be hard pushed to find a 2mp camera nowadays. Id aim for a 3-5mp camera.

Yep, I had a Nikon Coolpix 5700 (Which I am still mourning the loss of), very good camera. But that was more of a prosumer coolpix then the ones viney is on about I think. But very nice toy indeed.

I’m currently lusting after an EOS 400D, but that may be a little more than you are looking for!


Dan

Kate 19-09-06 12:03 PM

Have a look at the Sony Ericsson phones. My one has a 3.2 mega pixel camera with auto focus, flash, and all the other bits you get with a camera. Its pretty good.

northwind 19-09-06 02:36 PM

I'm maybe out of date, but I've never seen a camera phone with an optical zoom... Which, if it's still the case, is very limiting

Listen to Beenz. To put it a different way, a 7mp camera with bad optics takes a very high resolution image of a bad picture.

See if you can try some out. I got a fairly nice Kodak a couple of years back, not great but not bad, but I often use it for taking photos at gigs and festivals... And it's incredibly slow. Takes about 20 seconds to boot, for example. Stuff like that isn't obvious from spec sheets but it can be prety important- try taking a spontaneous photo with a camera that takes 20 seconds before it can shoot!

Thread hijack- can anyone recommend a small, fast, reasonable quality digital camera? Got to be able to deal with low light pretty well, and be fairly durable. I'm thinking maybe an IXUS, I used to have an APS IXUS II which I loved, apart from the cost of running an APS film camera...

Law 19-09-06 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
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Thread hijack- can anyone recommend a small, fast, reasonable quality digital camera? Got to be able to deal with low light pretty well, and be fairly durable. I'm thinking maybe an IXUS, I used to have an APS IXUS II which I loved, apart from the cost of running an APS film camera...

How much dosh? Read up on cameras and the higher the ISO speed the better it'll do in low light, Anti shake helps as well in low light and an optical stabiliser does.... I have no idea.

Filipe M. 19-09-06 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
Thread hijack- can anyone recommend a small, fast, reasonable quality digital camera? Got to be able to deal with low light pretty well, and be fairly durable. I'm thinking maybe an IXUS, I used to have an APS IXUS II which I loved, apart from the cost of running an APS film camera...

Try www.steves-digicams.com . Usually good reviews in there.

hovis 19-09-06 03:28 PM

anyone recomend 1 for about £50........im low on cash just bought bike,computer,helmet,boots,gloves,leathers race can etc etc :nomore:

Filipe M. 19-09-06 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hovi5
anyone recomend 1 for about £50........im low on cash just bought bike,computer,helmet,boots,gloves,leathers race can etc etc :nomore:

Dunno for sure, but I guess for that amount you'll find yourself limited to plastic lens ones, such as Aiptek and the like. :?

Or try to find some clearout sales, last years end of stock, etc...

Nekkid 19-09-06 04:06 PM

Go here to read comprehensive reviews of almost every decent digital camera ever made.
http://www.dpreview.com/

For the money, I would look for a second hand one, they change so fast now that a lot of people change from year to year.
5 Mega Pix will see you right, but 3 is still ok. Any less than 3 really isn't enough.

Good luck!

northwind 19-09-06 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Law
How much dosh?

Eh, £150-£200 I reckon. Seems to get up into diminishing returns territory, these days.

TC3 19-09-06 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

I’m currently lusting after an EOS 400D, but that may be a little more than you are looking for!


Dan

I went with the Pentax K100D....brilliant in body shake reduction and excellent low light iso capabilities. The soon to come out K10D will pi## all over the Canon 400D which itself hardly improves on the 350D which i returned soon as i got it for many reasons. Take a look at dpreview.com forums and see what the K10D has to offer and why it is kicking up such a storm. Also have a look at the K100D too....has a great viewfinder and i am real happy with it. However if the 400D floats your boat...good luck with that

SpankyHam 19-09-06 09:22 PM

I know you said no eBay but have a look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLYMPUS-CAMEDI...QQcmdZViewItem

I had this camera before and it's great. Long battery life, good quality pics, cheap memory.

Or any 2 megapixel camera with optical zoom

you don't need to spend more than ~£30.


You will never need more than 2 mega pixel for private use.

(This is coming from a guy owning a £500 7 Megapixel camera... :? You learn by the mistakes you make in life :lol: )

hovis 19-09-06 10:01 PM

pat i am holding u fully responsable if the camera is not up to my high standard :lol: :lol: :lol:

hovis 19-09-06 10:05 PM

should i get offer 1 or offer 2?
anwsers on a postcard :roll:

Amanda M 20-09-06 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

Thread hijack- can anyone recommend a small, fast, reasonable quality digital camera? Got to be able to deal with low light pretty well, and be fairly durable. I'm thinking maybe an IXUS, I used to have an APS IXUS II which I loved, apart from the cost of running an APS film camera...

Hiya.

I've got a casio exilim ex-z60. Had it since march I think. They're going for about £130 on amazon at the moment. They're really fast to start up, the battery lasts for ages and I've taken some superb pics with it. I'd definately recommend it, so maybe worth a look? I was thinking about the IXUS ones too, but this was cheaper and I was skint at the time :lol:

northwind 20-09-06 05:50 PM

Cheers, I'll take a look.

Demonz 20-09-06 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate
Have a look at the Sony Ericsson phones. My one has a 3.2 mega pixel camera with auto focus, flash, and all the other bits you get with a camera. Its pretty good.

I upgraded mine recently to a W810i - great phone and camera. Does little high quality vids well too. MP3 walkman is a bonus.

hovis 20-09-06 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickUK
I know you said no eBay but have a look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLYMPUS-CAMEDI...QQcmdZViewItem

I had this camera before and it's great. Long battery life, good quality pics, cheap memory.

Or any 2 megapixel camera with optical zoom

you don't need to spend more than ~£30.


You will never need more than 2 mega pixel for private use.

(This is coming from a guy owning a £500 7 Megapixel camera... :? You learn by the mistakes you make in life :lol: )


i have decided on the camera in the above link(thanks pat) but wots the diffrence between offer 1 & 2, & which shall i get :stupid:

northwind 20-09-06 07:03 PM

Dunno. But you'll probably want more memory for it I think, 8mb is, to be honest, rubbish.

hovis 20-09-06 07:34 PM

is it?

hovis 20-09-06 07:35 PM

how many pic will it hold??

northwind 20-09-06 07:56 PM

If I understand the auction right, it's saying that at full detail it'll hold 5. At absolute lowest quality, about 60. Could be wrong. But don't worry, memory isn't expensive these days- you can pick up 512mb for under a tenner and that's as big as I reckon you'd need. I'm going to get me a big honkin' SD card so that I never get caught out of "film" again, but I've got on fine with just 256mg for years.

In fact, you'd be fine with less, but I don't see any point, there's hardly any saving.

hovis 20-09-06 08:00 PM

will i be able to get a mem card from any good camera shop??
also offer 1 or 2 ???

northwind 20-09-06 08:08 PM

Yeah, anywhere'll have them.

One or two, no idea. Sorry!

hovis 20-09-06 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickUK
I know you said no eBay but have a look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLYMPUS-CAMEDI...QQcmdZViewItem

I had this camera before and it's great. Long battery life, good quality pics, cheap memory.

Or any 2 megapixel camera with optical zoom

you don't need to spend more than ~£30.


You will never need more than 2 mega pixel for private use.

(This is coming from a guy owning a £500 7 Megapixel camera... :? You learn by the mistakes you make in life :lol: )


1st person to explain the diffrance special offer 1 & 2(& which is best) gets a gold star

Xan173 21-09-06 09:41 AM

For me, size is very important.

If your camera is not small enough to keep with you at all times, you're going to miss a lot of photos.

cyphertheory 21-09-06 12:08 PM

offer one gives you the olypus charger with 2x1700mah. with the screen on the back the batteries will drain pretty fast.

offer two gives you a larger and probably faster charger with 4x2600mAh batteries. these have a larger charge so should last longer before needing to be recharged.

memory cards are pretty cheap to come by these days, but this uses smartmedia, which i found difficult to find in sizes above 64MB as a reasonable price, might beable to get some second hand on ebay

good luck!

Alpinestarhero 21-09-06 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beenz
Personally I prefer film :shock: But I am old so I have an excuse :lol:

Im a young 'un, but i prefer film. It just seems to be better, i cant put my finger on why..

Matt

linco 21-09-06 12:52 PM

Nah, what you want is a Hassleblad set-up, maybe the P45. Nice medium format, rocks the world with its 39mp sensor.......

Nah, noyl kidding. Being a photography nut in everyway I would recommend Nikon and Canon for compacts. Canon have some very nice compacts at the cheap end, the little A410 is very nice for around £110. Only 4mp but if you're not printing anything bigger than 5 x 7's don't worry.

On the camera phone front the k800i is very nice. Well in the camera phone world it is. From a camera point of view it sucks compared to a decent 3mp unit

Regards
Colin

wyrdness 21-09-06 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hovi5
will i be able to get a mem card from any good camera shop??
also offer 1 or 2 ???

Yes, if you want to pay twice the going rate for them.

My local Jessops had a card with a £119 price sticker, that Amazon were selling for £23. When I queried the price, I was told that it had come down to £56. Always check the prices on the net before buying memory cards.

hovis 21-09-06 01:47 PM

there is smartmedia cards om ebay will any1 fit or do you need a certin type :stupid:

cyphertheory 21-09-06 01:59 PM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FUJI-OLYMPUS-1...QQcmdZViewItem

this kind should be fine

wheres me gold star? lol

hovis 21-09-06 07:38 PM

:shock: £40 :shock: thats more than the camera :shock:

Rob S (Yella) 22-09-06 06:24 PM

I read in a camera magazine recently that many of the memory cards sold on ebay are fake even though they are branded as sandisk or other reputable names.

They were tested and performed about 10 & 20 X speed compared to the 80 to 120 X speed they should run at. In other words up to TEN times slower.

The reliability is also questionable.

A memory card is something I would only get from a known retailer. My photos are to special to loose.

Back to the thread..... for a £50 quid budget you should go for a camera with lower or no zoom and less than 5 megapixels. This should mean that money has been spent on optics and reliability rather than specs. I don't really know what to recommend at that price as the likes of Nikon/Cannon/Casio/Panasonic who all make great compacts come in around £80+. I know a mate who had a BEN-Q camera from dixons that seemed to do work pretty well but after a few months wouldn't charge up anymore.

PS. I might be selling a Nikon D50 body soon if anybody is interested.


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