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hi , im jack and im new to the forum, im nearly 17 and lookin for a bigger bike im either goin to get a 125cc (aprillia rs, derbi gpr, honda nsr , etx) and have it deresricted to 33bhp or i want to get a sv650 and restrict to 33 bhp , which one should i do or should i do sumthin else????? :P :D

id say most ppl on here would say get the sv :roll: welcome to the org. :D

Are taking your restricted license or have you done so. I'm assuming you know that you can ride a 33bhp bike after only taking your CBT ( Apologies if you now this already )

Personally I'd get the SV and restrict it. Once you 2 year restriction period is up, you can pop the restrictors out or change the ECU depending on which bike you buy ( curvey of pointy ) and then you have 70bhp to play with for no extra cash.

two strokes can be fragile. The Aprillia RS125 is notorious for this. If not looked after properly and even sometimes when they are they can eat piston rings / seize.

I'd start by checking out some insurance quotes - you might be in for a shock :wink:

Welcome to the site. The new RS's are lovely looking bikes. I would say pick up a cheap 2nd hand SV though and trade it for a new big bike once your time is done.

Totally agree insurance first! and then SV650, met a few young riders this weekend on restricted SV650's and they really rated them did'nt feel restricted until you get towards higher speeds, thats whta they said.

I'm sure there are a few members on restricted SV's

ok if this sounds dumb im sorry but y does the sv have less bhp and it a 650cc then a 600cc

Depends, which type of IL4 600cc something like a bandit or a Hornet or a fazer are all around 80bhp mark I think. If you are talking about a SS600 like a GSXR 600 or a CBR 600 they are all over 100bhp..

So basically yes it has less.

It's because it's a V-twin engine configuration, rather than an inline 4 (like 600cc sportsbikes). It's not an absolute rule, but generally speaking, the fewer cylinders an engine, the less power it makes (assuming the same capacity). For example a 650cc single making 40-45bhp wouldn't be considered massively underpowered for the engine type.

If it's going to be restricted to 33bhp anyway, I'd definately go for an SV over a supersports 600. I imagine your insurers will see it that way too. :wink:

Hope you enjoy whatever bike you choose and if it's an SV, welcome to the club. Cheers.

Edit: Fizzwheel, I think the lad was asking why it makes less power than a SS600, not "does it". The 'y' in the middle of the sentence gave it away. Can't you read 'yoof-speak'? :wink:

Assuming that the insurance is OK, I'd plump for the restricted SV, OK will make the same power as a anything else that produces 33Bhp but will have more useable lower down power. In effect a low stressed engine. After the time expires you can unleash those extra ponies.

You'd also get used to the size and weight of a 650 during your time possible loosing less money on resale also.

& if you dont get a SV welcome anyway :wink:

Alrite mate, welcome!

I was in a similar situation to you - got my full lisence (restricted to 33bhp) and wondered about getting a bike! However, rather than ponder on wether to get a 125 and derestrict to 33bhp or get a big bike and restrict to 33bhp i had already made up my mind to go down the later route. The only thing i wondered about was what bike to get!

Anyways, i own a restricted 99 sv-s. Its my first proper bike (after a speedfight, beast!) and I dont regret the desicion. After all, after my two years is up i dont have the hassle of selling it to get a more powerfull bike - 1hr and the restrictors are out and i have that power!

Go down the route of getting an SV and restricting it. It'll be better in the long run!

Do you know how much you're likley to be spending on the bike? Restriction kits are approx £150 to get fitted at a dealer.

Matt

[quote="fizzwheel"]Are taking your restricted license or have you done so. I'm assuming you know that you can ride a 33bhp bike after only taking your CBT ( Apologies if you now this already )

I'm a bit confused here and please correct me if I'm wrong - I'm sure you will. :lol:

I always thought you had to have your restricted licence and passed the "small bike test" before you could ride a bike restricted to 33bhp. I didn't think you could ride a 33bhp bike on a CBT.
I remember passing on my Honda CG125 which then enabled me to go upto 33bhp without L plates for 2 years - the probationary period.OR ride whatever I liked but restricted down to 33bhp for 2 years. After your 2 year probationary period is over the skies the limit. Correct ?

Yes, correct.

Fizz!! You should know better :wink:

No more like dodgy typing... apologies... thats what I meant, That you cant ride a 33bhp bike or bigger with only a CBT.

Or you could go for a restricted SS400 if you prefer an IL4. I had an RVF400RR as my first bike, it should handle better than the SV but you have to be careful as there are a lot of bad examples about. A few to have a look at...

CBR400RR
RVF400RR :thumleft:
ZXR400
GSX-R400
VFR400.

i seem to remember insurance on a 400 was higher than an sv, because they tend to get ragggged!

Lad at my uni has a VFR400. Its really really nice, sounds good and he dosnt have any problems with it. Might be small for you though if your in the area of 6ft tall?

Plus it looks like an RC30, which is the best bike of all time!

On a CBT you cant ride any machine bigger than 125cc and 14.6 bhp - you need to get you cat. A1 lisence to ride a machine of any cc up to 33bhp. I swear thats the law!

Matt

just check the insurance first! don't get carried away looking because most insurance companies don't care that its restricted and charge you a fortune. Imho i'd recommend running a 125 for at least a year. I didn;t want to originally but i learnt alot which has saved my ass a few times. if your wanting something that looks pretty big check out a hyosung gt125 (especially the gt125r). They're dirt cheap, will go forever on a tank of fuel! and can deal with 200mile journeys.

Just as a matter of interest, I passed my test in the mid '60s riding a 350 Ariel with a sidecar chassis attached. In those days that was a way round the 250cc rule. On the way to the test I had a flat tyre on the sidecar wheel, didn't fix it and took the test on the only cobbled street left in Rotherham. As soon as I got home, I removed the sidecar and unleashed all 14 horsepower! Back then 33 horses would have been wonderful!
Oldie

Hi,

I had a Cagiva Mito 125 until 6 months ago, some woman in a people carrier wrote it off!!!

I've now got a SV650 and would NEVER go back. If you buy a 125 your only going to have to have the engine rebuilt at some point which will cost in the region of £600-£1000, I know this from personal experience. Plus you can't beat the status it gives you. People seem to respect you more on the roads cos you have a proper bike not a replica, and not to mention the power!!

Hope this helps a bit

Matt