Motrax Flash-It solid state relay
 

Hi y'all,

Just wanted to post my experience with Motrax "Flash-it" solid state turn signal relays. http://www.motrax.co.uk

I recently replaced all the turn signals on my K6 with LED lamps. I got a blink rate that was darn near an epileptic fit inducing strobe. I tried ballasting down the turn signal circuit and got a fast blink. I didn't care for the idea of installing 20watts worth of ballast resistors in the circuit, so I started looking for a 12volt solid state relay.

Ended up using the "Flash-it" and I'm quite pleased with the results. The blink rate is back to normal without the use of any ballast resistors in the circuit.

They don't make a Suzuki specific relay (with the combined flash relay/sidestand relay/diodes) but installing the universal fit one was pretty easy. I removed terminals F (light blue) and G (brown) from the relay socket on the bike, then soldered the SSR directly to the wires. Black wire from the SSR to the light blue wire in the harness, red wire on the SSR to the brown wire in the harness.

Piece of cake. Normal blink rates, minimal load on the electrical system. :D

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Excellent. I think I may go and get one of these this afternoon as I cant seem to get my indicators to slow down.

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Where are these wire???

I'm gonna be going led very soon but don't know the best way to slow down the blink rate, or for that matter, where to make any connections!

Plase help.

P.S. Where do the universal relays wire in?

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The original relay unit is sat next to the fuse panel on the rear tray. It has 7 wires going into it. You can remove individual connectors from the terminal block using a thin instrument such as a tweezer leg. The wires from the motrax relay are thick and will slot straight into these connectors and provide a tight fit. You could possibly get away with not soldering (I didn't bother). Just be sure to use insulation tape on the connectors when you're finished so they don't short.

Hope this helps, Si

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Have finally got around to fitting this and it works perfectly. No wiring instructions in the box so these were very handy.

I have pushed the wires into the terminal on the wire and soldered them. If I ever need to reverse the operation I should be able to do it.

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Just to add, I've just done this on a curvy SV. The wiring was different colours than described here. I pushed out the two wires from the multi relay socket. Light blue which goes onto the Black of the new relay and the other was Orange with a green stripe, this goes to the red on the relay.
For reference I picked up one of the relays you can find in Halfords on their limited bike shelf. I just removed the connectors from the Kawasaki connector terminal. The Suzuki ones pushed in nicely and the I just tapped them up afterwards.


Job done :D

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Hi, would this relay work with mine as i have the standard front indi's and led rear indi's?

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Yes, it will work for yours as well. The whole point of using a solid state flasher module is that it does not need a specific load on it to control the flash rate...it works with any combination of regular and LED bulbs. I've got eight turn signal bulbs at this point. Front and rear are LED, two in the instrument panel, with an extra pair of amber regular bulbs in place of the front marker lamps next to the headlights. (The flush mounted LED front turn signals were not very visible from the front of the bike, hence the extra pair.)

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Just be aware that the fast blink rate is intentional, it shows when a bulb has failed. All relays could be made without that if it was so desired.

The idea is that LED's will last as long as the vehicle, so you don't need to alert for failures.

Using a fixed rate relay with bulbs could mean you won't notice a failed bulb.

Just be aware................

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:cheers: Bingo!

Thanks

:smt045

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Ok that does not work either.

Wireing it as mentined above give me a solid non winking light on the indicator.

Anyone got any ideas........ please??? :notworthy:

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hi there! Great forum BTW. just bought a sv 650s K5. Changed to led-lights

Just got me a solid state relay, here comes the prolem, The relay has 3 connection points, named 31 49a and 49. The standars relay has, as you know only two connections. Does anybody know how to fix it?

THX

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i fixed mine by errrrrr














fitting standard ones on again :(

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Din numbers are:
31 = earth, (bat -).
49 = live in (bat +). Orange/green wire on a curvy, brown on a pointy.
49a = live out, (indicator switch). Light blue wire.

So terminal 31 is the odd one out, sometimes a flasher will work without an earth, sometimes it won't. If it doesn't then connect 31 to a frame earth point.

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Thx. Will try that tomorrow! I´ll post the result!

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Do you have to buy the Motrax relay or is there a cheaper alternative?

Regards

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I took a relay that works with cars and bikes, paid about 3 £. Don´t really know where to get it in the UK

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Hi!

Worked like a charm! thx!

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I got any motrax flasher relay from ebay for about £5 delivered. Think it was from a Yamaha of some description.

There are others on ebay that I'm sure will work as well.

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Excellent! just fitted one today and it works a treat!:smt038
Thanks for posting the details on which wires to connect to - the relay comes with no instructions at all.

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anyone have a pic of how its all wired up as i confused and wish to do this for my gsxr and sv

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hiya,

I'm a newbie, who has changed to LED indicators and have a high flash rate.

I have bought the Motrax flash it relay, but a bit confused how to fit :-((

On the relay itself I can see 7 wires going in.

One is brown and there are three light blue (two with colour specs on them), only one really light blue though. Is this the one??

Once I pull out the correct two wires, do i connect the SSR connectors directly to the wires I have just removed - Light Blue to Black and Brown to red.

or I do insert the wires back into the original relay where the original wires were.. ie leaving the original two wires just hanging loose.

Also can i do any damage by getting it wrong!!!

Thanks

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There are two wires that go to the indicator relay, the others go to the starter lockout relay.
You don't say what bike you've got, (click me), and we need to know 'cos the wiring colours are different on different models.

Yes.

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Thanks Sid,

SV650s K5

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Right I've just had another squint at the wiring diagram, I don't have a specific K5 diagram here at the mo, but if the colours are the same as the one I have got, (and I'm fairly sure they are), there are, as you say, seven wires all tolled in the block, they are; blue/black, blue, green, orange/yellow, orange/black, brown, light blue.
The brown is the live supply to the flasher - to the red wire on the new relay, the light blue is the connection to the switch, (the load), and goes to the black wire on the relay.

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Thanks sid,

Just connected it all up and the indicators are flashing at normal rate... although I was getting use to them going fast..

Had trouble pulling out the brown and light blue wires though. so just cut the wires an inch or two above the relay and put a couple of connectors on them and the SSD to connect them together.. thought this was a good idea, just in case i got the wrong wires and needed to connect them back to the original relay.

Next on the list is a rear hugger.. think I'm gonna go for Pyramid one, which although more expensive seems to look better than the Powerbronze one which is only £65. It looks really ugly on the powerbronze website for my K5. Practically covers the whole quarter of the wheel - not just the top where the tyre is like most others I've seen. not sure if its just a bad picture.. but theres 3 pics and they all look horrible.

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:D

Yes, they can be fiddly. You need to depress the tang that holds the terminal in the block with a pin or perhaps a thin screwdriver, you can get specific tools for doing this and of course this makes the job a lot easier, but they're relatively expensive and rather fragile, so I made three different types of my own, two are made from old worn screwdrivers ground down, and one is a carefully filed piece of heavy wire with a bit of wood for a handle.

You're welcome - that's what we're here for!

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I'll bear that in mind in future!! But job done anyway by just cutting the wires and fitting connectors!!!

I was reading before your comment on other threads, that can use a pair of tweezers to get it out.. but that wasn't given me any joy... far too big to get anywhere near the tang - or whatever its called... for anyone else whose trying!!

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Worked perfectly for me on my '04 pointy.. Thanks guys!

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Or you could order and fit one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LED-FLASHER-RE...item5ad67f6da6

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Hi all

Just done mine today and works a treat too!! Thanks for all who contributed to this thread - made it very easy to do - especially which wires connect together.