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danf1234 01-05-07 12:14 PM

Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Has anyone on here actually succeeding in fitting a Stebel Magnum to a Pointy SV650?

I have search the forum and though two schools of thought. Those who say Yeah, and those who say no????

The problem being it looks like very few people have actually tried. If so has anyone got any tips pointers etc??

i.e Relay or not, do the wires need cutting and extending, and most importantly where to mount the damn thing..

Baph 01-05-07 12:29 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
In order:
Yes. Course it can be done. Yes if needed.

If you want specifics, let me know. But basically, remove the stock horn, cut the connector off, extend the wires, add a relay & wires, fit it to the bike.

See here for a pic of mine (look behind the front indicator).

I'm thinking of putting another one on the other side actually.

danf1234 01-05-07 12:39 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Is the relay essential because it clearly states on the product it is not needed.

Only the larger model Nautilis (can't remember exact name) needs the relay because of the extra power drain.

Or am I wrong?

Luckypants 01-05-07 12:47 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
It might not be neccessary on a car, but is on the bike. Standard horn is pretty lame, reason is not very powerful.

Power = volts x current - as voltage is always 12V then it stands to reason a more powerful horn will draw more current. SV wiring is designed to handle current draw of standard horn, a greater current draw will damage the circuit. The most vunerable part is the handle bar switch.

Use a relay (pennies) to protect orignal wiring. wire the powerful horn(s) to the battery via the relay.

Get the twin pack if you want really loud :smt074 IMO twin tomes always sound better.

danf1234 01-05-07 01:08 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Can the relay just be wiring in line to the positive when I cut the old wires and rejoin the new.?

Also which relay do I need?

hovis 01-05-07 01:10 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1175975)
I'm thinking of putting another one on the other side actually.

if you do i will buy your old one
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1175990)
It might not be neccessary on a car, but is on the bike. Standard horn is pretty lame, reason is not very powerful.
.

i dont think you need a rely on a curvy

Baph 01-05-07 01:14 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Your local maplin will sort you out. Bosch style SPDT relay, either 30A or 40A (I always use 40A) for 12v circuits. 40A is N02AW, 30A is N00AW (stock codes).

The wires from your old horn will need blue female (insulated) spade connectors on. These go on pins 85 & 86 (doesn't matter which). Then run a wire from the battery +ve to 87. Then run a wire from 87a to ground (battery -ve or frame).

I'm with Luckypants, whilst a relay might not be essential, I don't want to risk it on my bike.

EDIT: Hovis, the whole point of putting another one on the other side is to have two. I can sell you my stock meeper if you like ;) BTW, Wales rideout thread, I asked if you were coming to pickup those hotgrips.

Luckypants 01-05-07 01:17 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hovis (Post 1176009)
i dont think you need a rely on a curvy

Yes you do, for same reasons given above. :rolleyes:

hovis 01-05-07 01:22 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1176017)
Yes you do, for same reasons given above. :rolleyes:

well....nobody has fitted a relay to a curvy AFAIK


baph, dont think i will be coming , (working)

Luckypants 01-05-07 01:24 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danf1234 (Post 1176007)
Can the relay just be wiring in line to the positive when I cut the old wires and rejoin the new.?

Also which relay do I need?

Here's what I did (curvey so might not apply to pointy) Disconnected the spade connectors off old meeper. re-routed wires slightly to give more free play and connected these spade connectors directly to 85 and 86. I then glued the relay to the front of the airbox out of the way, protected under the tank. I then ran the wires as Baph says and mounted the horns on bent metal brackets attached to the top radiator mounting bolts. On a curvey the horns are nicely inside the fairing.

Note I fitted twin Fiamm horns, that are physically smaller (and not as loud / heavy) as the Stebel Magnum(s). Much louder than stock, wakes up drivers. Funnily enough, I use them more on bikes than cars.....

HTH

muffles 01-05-07 01:57 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Hmm I always thought your SV was red, Baph...

Baph 01-05-07 01:59 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muffles (Post 1176074)
Hmm I always thought your SV was red, Baph...

You be thinking of SoulKiss.

Mine's blue. Thought about getting a silver one, but got blue.

hovis 01-05-07 02:00 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
i thought it was red too ? ?

muffles 01-05-07 03:29 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Heheh, you sure it's not red? ;)

Looks nice in that pic, mind. That blue is the best of the K6 colours, IMO, it looks a little green on occasion but it ain't bad at all!

Baph 01-05-07 03:32 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muffles (Post 1176241)
Looks nice in that pic, mind.

See some more pics of it in the same location, here, if you like.

I find it can look a deep shade of purple under petrol station lights too. That colour looks great!

Stu 01-05-07 05:18 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Back to the original question.
I have fitted one to my Pointy without a relay and without extending the wires and without changing the comnnector.
Just plug & play :thumbsup:
£10 from Halfords. Used the same mounting bracket but moved it outside to the left side radiator guard.

I've only fitted one, not 2 so maybe that's why I have & hopefully will continue to get away w/out a relay and it's plenty loud enough to save me the bother.

dirtydog 01-05-07 05:40 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
I fitted a magnum to my nekkid adn had no trouble with it.

I also fitted the twin fiams to my S model the same way as luckypants

Baph 01-05-07 07:06 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
I narrowly avoided a classic SMIDSY this evening thanks to the magnum. Get the thing fitted ASAP.

I also scared the crap out of a local kid when she stepped out in front of me at a junction :D (magnum & then rev limiter right next to the dippy bint).

Luckypants 01-05-07 08:03 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1176453)
I narrowly avoided a classic SMIDSY this evening thanks to the magnum. Get the thing fitted ASAP.

I also scared the crap out of a local kid when she stepped out in front of me at a junction :D (magnum & then rev limiter right next to the dippy bint).

We really are a tolerant crowd ain't we? :D

muffles 02-05-07 10:20 AM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1176249)
See some more pics of it in the same location, here, if you like.

I find it can look a deep shade of purple under petrol station lights too. That colour looks great!

Yep definitely like that K6 colour the best! Purple eh...got any pics?

danf1234 03-05-07 06:53 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1176376)
Back to the original question.
I have fitted one to my Pointy without a relay and without extending the wires and without changing the comnnector.
Just plug & play :thumbsup:
£10 from Halfords. Used the same mounting bracket but moved it outside to the left side radiator guard.

I've only fitted one, not 2 so maybe that's why I have & hopefully will continue to get away w/out a relay and it's plenty loud enough to save me the bother.

So no problems doing it this way then? How longs it been on the bike?

Blue Flame 03-05-07 10:54 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
I fitted the Stebel Nautilus Compact onto my pointy with no real issues. Used the relay as well cos the juice that it uses is a wee bit more than the wiring for the standard horn is designed to take.

Used the brackets from the existing horn and fitted it to the R/H side bottom radiator fixing point before banging the lowers back on. Works damm fine

[IMG]http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/gran****son/Photos_files/Horn_002.jpg[/IMG]

Luckypants 03-05-07 10:57 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
:p I bet that is real loud!

Blue Flame 03-05-07 11:04 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Yep. Fair keeked ma breeks when i tested it

Try clickin this. Lots of noisy buttons to press :razz: http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2007.htm

Stu 04-05-07 08:46 AM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danf1234 (Post 1178594)
So no problems doing it this way then? How longs it been on the bike?

It's been on the bike a month or so with no probs. Makes sense to me - it's only used for a paaaaaaaaaarp or two, not on constantly like a light.

Baph 04-05-07 09:01 AM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1178986)
It's been on the bike a month or so with no probs. Makes sense to me - it's only used for a paaaaaaaaaarp or two, not on constantly like a light.

My horn was designed for constant use. Well, hopefully it was, because it takes a fair old hammering.

If I lived in London I think I'd kill it.

danf1234 04-05-07 04:44 PM

Re: Stebel Magum Fitting on a Pointy.
 
Fitted my stebel Magnum today and I have to say I am well impressed with it.


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