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tinpants 18-06-07 04:26 PM

Bernard Manning
 
Ok, I know he wasn't everyone's idea of a good comedian (apart from me!!) but its still sad to have lost a great comedian such as him.

So un-P.C. So blue. So very, very funny. :D :D


I.M.H.O of course. :rolleyes:


R.I.P.

Biker Biggles 18-06-07 04:28 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Agreed.

hovis 18-06-07 04:39 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
****............... gutted.

Pedrosa 18-06-07 05:02 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Bernard Manning? Is he some distant relative of Bernard Biker Chick?:confused:

Jabba 18-06-07 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedrosa (Post 1215691)
Bernard Manning? Is he some distant relative of Bernard Biker Chick?:confused:

No mate.......... her jokes are a lot ruder :D

Pedrosa 18-06-07 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba (Post 1215697)
No mate.......... her jokes are a lot ruder :D


:p :p :p

Stingo 18-06-07 06:31 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Gone to meet his joker in the sky. RIP.

cuffy 18-06-07 06:36 PM

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Considering the PC brigade were out to nail him he was still extremly popular.
From one comedy legend to another RIP :(

keithd 18-06-07 06:42 PM

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had his time had his place, a dinosaur imo.

but nonetheless, RIP

Ed 18-06-07 08:08 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
It's my experience that when people die, others tend to forget the nasty side to the deceased.

He was crude, sexist, racist, and offensive IMO.

Why mourn a bigot?

Lozzo 18-06-07 08:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellerophon (Post 1215659)
Ok, I know he wasn't everyone's idea of a good comedian

Exactly, no great loss to civilised society....NEXT!

Richie 18-06-07 09:06 PM

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glad I'm not a pallbearer.

Kinvig 19-06-07 09:45 AM

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Couldn't stand the man. his jokes just weren't funny.

Thought he came across as a vulgar little man...ditto Chubby Brown.

Pedrosa 19-06-07 09:57 AM

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On the second date with the person who turned out to be my future wife, I took her to a Chubby Brown gig. was the ideal way to impress her do you think? Could a better impression have been made?:D

MiniMatt 19-06-07 10:31 AM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed (Post 1215899)
It's my experience that when people die, others tend to forget the nasty side to the deceased.

He was crude, sexist, racist, and offensive IMO.

Why mourn a bigot?

That description sums up my Grandma perfectly, but I still cried a bit at her funeral. To be fair, at least she had the good grace to shut the hell up about most sensitive topics, we were never going to change her mind and she eventually realised she was never going to change ours.

I tend to think there's good in everyone, and someone (ie. his family) will miss him terribly, and that's sad, and I feel for them. Will I miss him? Nope, I also considered him a crude sexist, racist bigot. I suppose when someone's dead, there's just no point in continuing to attack someone, because obviously they'll never change. I remember reading some interview with a US executioner who was questioned on the supreme dignity he afforded the bodies of his "customers", his response was that they'd now paid their debt to soceity and deserved to be treated with the same humanity as anyone else.

Never saw Bernad Manning, and have never seen Nelson Mandella, I'll be sad at both their deaths (not wanting to write Nelson into an early grave!) but I know I'll only mourn the death of one of 'em.

stewie 19-06-07 01:28 PM

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Say what you like about him, but a least he was an equal opprotunity bigot, he hated all foreigners !

tinpants 19-06-07 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniMatt (Post 1216181)
That description sums up my Grandma perfectly, but I still cried a bit at her funeral. To be fair, at least she had the good grace to shut the hell up about most sensitive topics, we were never going to change her mind and she eventually realised she was never going to change ours.

I tend to think there's good in everyone, and someone (ie. his family) will miss him terribly, and that's sad, and I feel for them. Will I miss him? Nope, I also considered him a crude sexist, racist bigot. I suppose when someone's dead, there's just no point in continuing to attack someone, because obviously they'll never change. I remember reading some interview with a US executioner who was questioned on the supreme dignity he afforded the bodies of his "customers", his response was that they'd now paid their debt to soceity and deserved to be treated with the same humanity as anyone else.

Never saw Bernad Manning, and have never seen Nelson Mandella, I'll be sad at both their deaths (not wanting to write Nelson into an early grave!) but I know I'll only mourn the death of one of 'em.

I can see your point. Having said that, are you condoning terrorism? After all, thats where Mandela started off his political life - in the military wing of the A.N.C. Just because he was vaunted by "right on" people as the Champion of the People doesn't make him any better. Bernard Manning did loads for charity, raising money for sick kids and the like. He also did a stand up gig for Clive Lloyd in his testimonial year, and John Conte. Both of whom are black. He may have been crude etc, but he was bloody funny.

Each to there own I s'pose.

MiniMatt 19-06-07 02:12 PM

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Chuckle, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The French Resistance were terrorists by most modern descriptions.

On Bernard, the more obituraries I see the more I note charitable works that seemed truly genuine and not they typical celebrity "I do work for charidee me". Still couldn't stand the man's humour or comments, but I'll still happily stand to my "there's good in everyone" comment and find any death sad (though obviously it's all our ultimate fate).

tinpants 19-06-07 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniMatt (Post 1216415)
Chuckle, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The French Resistance were terrorists by most modern descriptions.

On Bernard, the more obituraries I see the more I note charitable works that seemed truly genuine and not they typical celebrity "I do work for charidee me". Still couldn't stand the man's humour or comments, but I'll still happily stand to my "there's good in everyone" comment and find any death sad (though obviously it's all our ultimate fate).

Fairy 'nuff. Can't argue with that.

philipMac 20-06-07 12:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stewie (Post 1216362)
Say what you like about him, but a least he was an equal opprotunity bigot, he hated all foreigners !


Ah yeah. few enough people properly have a go at people because they are Irish these days.
He was definitely a "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" man.

Which is... ehhh. Fairly pathetic really.
And about as funny as those "you've been framed" movies of people crashing bikes.

Swiss 20-06-07 12:49 PM

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007280401,00.html

Stingo 20-06-07 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 1217359)


Made me laugh...does it make me a bad person?:smt089

cuffy 20-06-07 01:51 PM

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Will people jump on the racist band wagon when Warren Mitchell (AKA Alf Garnett) Meets his maker? I doubt it very much!

And yet when you look back at "In sickness and in health" that was racist, along with quite a few other 70's sit com's the one about all the foriegn students "Mind your language" and "it aint arf hot mum", Jesus if these were shown now there would be national uproar!!

Why was is it tolerable then but not now?

Something to do with the amount of immigrants we let into the country?

Don't want too offend visitors to the realm?
Get F*****
Just goes to show what a nanny state pompous ar$e society we live in today.
OK Mr Manning was very close to the knuckle on alot of his material, but what a $hit world it would be if we all had to conform to how the PC brigade want us to be.
Makes my blood boil!!!
Rant over :takeabow:

hovis 20-06-07 01:53 PM

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:winner:

Stingo 20-06-07 01:58 PM

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Hoorah!!:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

stewie 20-06-07 02:01 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cuffy (Post 1217414)
Will people jump on the racist band wagon when Warren Mitchell (AKA Alf Garnett) Meets his maker? I doubt it very much!

And yet when you look back at "In sickness and in health" that was racist, along with quite a few other 70's sit com's the one about all the foriegn students "Mind your language" and "it aint arf hot mum", Jesus if these were shown now there would be national uproar!!

Why was is it tolerable then but not now?

Something to do with the amount of immigrants we let into the country?

Don't want too offend visitors to the realm?
Get F*****
Just goes to show what a nanny state pompous ar$e society we live in today.
OK Mr Manning was very close to the knuckle on alot of his material, but what a $hit world it would be if we all had to conform to how the PC brigade want us to be.
Makes my blood boil!!!
Rant over :takeabow:

You forgot 'love thy neighbour' I can remember watching this in the 70,s and thinking this isnt funny and its not right either, fast forward to the 90,s and you have Quentin Tarantino calling everyone ni##ers in his films and geting lauded for it. Incidentally 'love thy neighbour' was shown on uk gold only about 6 yrs ago, makes you think doesnt it

philipMac 20-06-07 05:14 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
I love the way that as soon as you say anything to the effect of people should be treated more or less the same regardless their ethnicity or sex or nationality everyone gets all worked up about THE PC BRIGADE.

Bernard Manning was not very funny.
Racist, misogynistic and xenophobic jokes are generally not very funny. Its the same joke over and over and over again.

HA HA HA IRISH PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA BLACKS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA WOMEN!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA JEWS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA CAMEL SHAGGERS!!! HA HA HA HA.


Its not funny. Its brain dead. It is more or less the lowest, crapest, most simpleminded excuse for humor there is.
It is usually laughed at by middle aged big lardy white blokes who sit around guffawing while looking at their mates to make sure they are guffawing too, while they rummage about in their pork scratchings and drink lager.

Ceri JC 20-06-07 05:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by philipMac (Post 1217599)

HA HA HA IRISH PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA BLACKS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA WOMEN!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA JEWS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA CAMEL SHAGGERS!!! HA HA HA HA.

Erm, you do know he was Jewish, right?

I wasn't a fan of his, but I think the criticism of him and simple branding of him (on a personal level) as a rascist was a bit one dimensional and innacurate.

philipMac 20-06-07 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceri JC (Post 1217620)
Erm, you do know he was Jewish, right?

I wasn't a fan of his, but I think the criticism of him and simple branding of him (on a personal level) as a rascist was a bit one dimensional and innacurate.

I am not just talking about him. I am talking about this type of humour.
Pick some group. Laugh at them for being so stupid.

If you criticize it, you are part of the PC BRIGADE. Down with that sort of thing etc etc.

It's simply not that funny. I am all about offensive humour. I am really offensive in lots of ways. Just not in that simple pathetic unfunny easy way.

I am not saying he is racist. I am saying a lot of his jokes were. That, and rubbish.

tinpants 20-06-07 09:08 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philipMac (Post 1217599)
I love the way that as soon as you say anything to the effect of people should be treated more or less the same regardless their ethnicity or sex or nationality everyone gets all worked up about THE PC BRIGADE.

Bernard Manning was not very funny.
Racist, misogynistic and xenophobic jokes are generally not very funny. Its the same joke over and over and over again.

HA HA HA IRISH PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA BLACKS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA WOMEN!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA JEWS!!! HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA CAMEL SHAGGERS!!! HA HA HA HA.


Its not funny. Its brain dead. It is more or less the lowest, crapest, most simpleminded excuse for humor there is.
It is usually laughed at by middle aged big lardy white blokes who sit around guffawing while looking at their mates to make sure they are guffawing too, while they rummage about in their pork scratchings and drink lager.


So come on. You can tell us all if you want.








Did you like him?:D :confused:



Er, the thread is about him - the man - not the humour he used. Look past all that. IF you can.

therealvw 20-06-07 10:29 PM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
It is sad that he has gone. Also, as some people think he was a bit of the old school comedy routine, making fun of the immigrant, or someone who is perceived as lower or stupider than him/us.
Went to his Club up in Moston, Manchester for a stag do. Was pretty funny. One line of his that I thought was a little bit humourous.... . He saw a young lady in the front row. She was the Hen in a Hen night outing,. He said to her

" EEh, You look nice love,... Nice dress... stand up and give us a twirl", which she did. He then replied, " If you were my daughter I'd still be bathing you"

Not very PC at all. But on the night was very funny. So to get to the actual point of this post and thread. I think he will be missed.

yorkie_chris 20-06-07 10:39 PM

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I think the PC lot see the minority jokes as a direct insult and can't see that you can actually take the p### out of something in a lighthearted way.
Case in point: In that article linked further up theres a polish joke, I'm part Polish and I'm not crying discrimination; because its a JOKE.

RIP

Ed 21-06-07 08:38 AM

Re: Bernard Manning
 
Completely stand by what I said up top, and I agree with what Philip said too.

The man was a racist bigot and I don't mourn his death. GBR in fact.

Swiss 21-06-07 08:59 AM

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I wonder how many of the "down with Bernard" Brigade have never had a giggle or chastised somebody based on their race, colour or creed? Not openly of course, heaven forbid, it's not seen as being correct!

Not that they would admit to it as it may upset the balance of their incredibly high pedestal.


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