Recommend me some crash bungs!!
 

Seeing as I spend so much time horizontal rather than vertical I want to get some crash bungs for my SV...what should I go for, are R&G's worth the price or are any of the cheaper alternatives just as effective? I'm not so fussy about something that is going to save the bike at speed...just something to help me lay the bike down in a less damaging way lol :D

I've noticed some crash protection is frame mounted and some use the engine mounts...what are the pro's and cons?

Ta everyone :)

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I can't recommend R&G highly enough.

They may be quite expensive (compared to the others out there), but they do the job!

I came off my bike a few weeks ago (dropped it onto the left hand side at about 40mph) and the R&G bung on that side saved major damage to the bike (and to my left leg too). Details here.

I had the old style fitted, and contacted R&G about a replacement bung. They told me they no-longer carry them in stock, but they would sell me what they call an upgrade kit (actually a complete kit) for half the normal price.

Now that's what I call customer service! I just need to wait for payday now.

Going off what I've read from other members, some of the cheaper versions, don't fare to well in a crash. Some have brackets which bend and crack fairings.

The new R&G kit is £70 plus P+P (if you order from them direct), but in my opinion it's money well spent! (The kit for the fully faired Pointys is £90 + P+P)

http://www.rg-racing.com/images/prod...e/img198_2.jpg
This is how their new kit fits on a curvey.

Their website is here

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Thank you!! They look like they'd do the job...the bracket looks good too imo. I have a naked curvey and £70 seems worth it for what you get compared to other kits...glad you were ok after your spill btw :D

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Looking at the design of the new version, it looks like it'd stand up to a slide even better than mine did (as you can see from my pic, it pulled the bung half way out of it's socket).

Cheers. I was fine and I made it to the TT (rode about 400 miles on the island and had several runs over the mountain):p

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Nice one :D can't wait to get out on my SV...love how it looks, how it sounds, all I can do atm is sit on it in my garage lmao

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I reckon Moto sliders or Moko sliders are better than R&Gs (But I've got R&G's cos they were £10)

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Yeah, I agree with Stu. I had the old R&Gs, the ones that everyone hated, and they did sterling service for me- perfect performance on 2 occasions, very impressed. Saved me a fortune. But then I got the new ones, and honestly I think they're not good enough... Superb design but the bung's too weak. You see far too many stories of low-speed (under 40mph) lowsides and them snapping right off without hitting a solid object, that's bad. Some people have them snap off on impact with the ground and still think they're doing good work, which confuses me...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../bentRandg.jpg

This is mine after a gentle lowside in gravel at, at most, 25mph. They did protect, but not as much as they should, the main bolt is only M10 and bent like a coathanger. The tapered base of the bung means a lot of force goes through that bolt. Add to this that the replacement parts were going to be £30 plus £8 P&P- for such simple, sacrificial parts that's too much IMO, when the entire bung set including the brackets was not much more than twice that. So, I got these:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...Picture031.jpg

Motosliders, which as you can see I finally tested 2 weeks ago. The damage is almost identical to the R&Gs, apart from the rear lever which was untouched. In fairness though, they're higher up and so more protected... But the crash was at higher speed, the bike went down harder, then slid into a kerb still carrying maybe 20mph. If it hadn't hit the kerb then it'd have not damaged the front fairing at all, or damaged the front lever and clipon- all that missing paint is still there, smeared into the concrete. So, faster harder crash, same damage, and most caused by hitting a solid object not the slide. Also, the bung was worn but not bent back (though they will break if they hit a solid object, they're designed to as all good bungs should be) so only one part had to be replaced (and it's suitably cheap)

Crash bungs are always a matter of balance. Too strong, and they risk creating damage, since if you slide into a hard object like a kerb, they have to either bend, break, or pass the impact on. Too weak, and of course they just bend or break. IMO GSG Moko, Motosliders and the old JHS ones all got this right. The old R&Gs nearly did, provided you got one of the sets with the right machining. The new ones IMO have it badly wrong.

However... The R&G design is brilliant. With a wide bung to spread the load, they'd be every bit as good as the competition, if not better. Perhaps a GSXR thou bung would do it. The only reason i didn't do this was the high cost of spares and postage. My motosliders cost less to ship from the US with a complete spare set of bungs and a set of swingarm bungs than a new set of R&Gs- and arrived faster too. You could do a lot worse than R&G...

Motrax DHMs are weak, even after they changed the design so that they were held on with more than 5mm of thread (credit to them there, I complained and they refunded me in full and changed the design shortly after, good stuff. Still a deeply flawed design, too long and too weak). Cheap, though. The OEM for the pointy are atrocious... The old Motrax ones are merely shoddy, too short to be useful but fairly strong. The metal ones you see are dreadful. Motovation are almost identical to the motosliders, for obvious reasons, they're a simple ripoff. So, they're a great buy but personally I wouldn't.

I would, and no doubt will, buy more Motosliders though. Good product, good price, good spares availability. What more do you want? Oh aye, also, that Pazzo front lever did absolutely brilliantly, it took a hell of a hit but was still the right shape. Far better than stock does, I'll be replacing it with another for sure and the last one is still good as a spare. Damage limitation can go beyond bungs.

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Bike Johnny make sliders similer to the motosliders in the UK.

Ive got a set on the SV, ive only chucked it down on the track, but there was no damage as i went into the gravel trap. So i cannot give first hand experiance of the damage protection they give. But the old R&G's in my experiance were not good either, two crashes ended up in the bungs just popping out of the cup holder.

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Has anyone used the LOS bungs before. From the web site I'm very interested and the prices are very reasonable for what he claims to be good quality.

I really like the look of the billet ally ones see piccy attached.....


http://www.loscrashprotection.com/billet-big.jpg

Just interested if anyone has fitted/tested these before........Sorry to hijack a bit but it might be of interest to you

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not sure what ones i have, i think they are canadian? & they stick out quite far, they look like a trumpet?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...5/dcp_2486.jpg

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im also thinking about some crash bungs as im going to get some fairing lowers

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Hovis, those are Bikesliders I think, like Cloggsy had. Another good one.

svJvJ, never actually met those ones but they look like they bolt to the front engine mount, which is a bit of a bad location as it's so narrow- to get the bungs to the same width as ones on the middle mount they have to be huge, and long means weak. Also, if they snap you can be left with a bit of hardened bolt stuck in an engine mount thread (middle bolt is a straight-through, if it snaps you just replace it, front one is a threaded hole with an M10) THe other thing is, metal's not really a material I'd choose for various reasons- delrin and similiar bends nicely, metal doesn't. It'll also transmit more force in the initial fall, like a little anvil. So it could work out bad in an accident, but that's as much luck of the draw as anything else tbh.

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R&G's here not used them yet tho, did use DHM's but a virtual stand still drop still bent them tho.

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Here's another piccy from the web site on a sv.....Is this where you mean front engine mount....? And thanks good points about the metal...never thought of that. Looks like I'll be saving up for the dearer ones then...

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10Bomb Motorsports in the US do Motosliders...anybody dealt with this store? Good or bad?

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HMM

You've got me thinking. If the new R&G's do this in a slow drop into gravel, what would happen in a faster crash (what would have happened in my off at 40mph)?

I think I'll be looking into these Motosliders instead of R&G's offer.

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Ive got RandG but havent tested them

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Yep, that's the one. The left isn't too bad, but the RHS is further in than that. Not that it's a disasterously bad place to put 'em, mind... Just that it's not the best.

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R&G's for me, saved mine when i slid her down the road in feb

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I wrote in another thread!.......

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I very nearly entirely agree :) But I'd say that some are rubbish regardless of what sort of crash, the original DHM right side bung was so bad I could probably have snapped it off by hand. True that no 2 crashes are the same, but when you see half a dozen similiar crashes and the bungs fail in the same way, or dozens of crashes and none fail at all, you can get a good idea of what to expect.

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True - there is also going to be differences in quality with any product and I also think that the cheapest may not necessarily be the worst or the most expensive the best - My point is more that crash bungs, given the nature of their job, aren't infallible!

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Does anyone have GSGs? Am asking cos they seem to be one of the very few for the 675 without cutting the fairing.

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Motosliders are the ones to have, the R&G's are not up to the job even when you use a corrected shape bung (hence why R&G have not changed the current design). No slider will completely protect your bike, obviously, but for the price that motosliders are (inc UK delivery) and the damage protection they offer they simply are the best buy!

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I ve used the Nylon ones from los, and crash tested in a low side, did their job, and cheap as chips:rolleyes:

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Dave - no question of R&Gs, I'd have to drill a 28mm hole in the fairing. No thanks.

Got a link for Motosliders?

GSG are German. The site is in German too:confused: and UK distributor BikeJohnny is expensive - it would be cheaper to import from the USA. The sliders bolt onto the engine, the pix on the site look good.

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http://www.motosliders.com/sv.html

Costs just under £60 i think for them to be shipped to the UK.

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They don't do Triumph:smt085

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I found these which don't require cutting the fairing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Triumph-Dayton...QQcmdZViewItem

110 though is a little on the expensive side for bungs, but if they work, then I wouldn't complain!

The others I was going to look at (other than GSG) are Sky king:

http://skykingproducts.com/Merchant2...Category=12874

General consensus on what I have read though is that GSG are the better design

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?110!! Wow that's expensive. Have decided to order the GSGs from the US at $110.

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Hey Ed,

Can you post a link? I think that's what I'm going for as well and would like to order now, if they are coming from the US!

Thanks
Luke

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http://www.twistedthrottle.com/artic...view/163/1/29/

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...view/3895/516/

Edit - oops, posted to the street trip, which are cheaper. Sorry!

Correct link:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...view/2689/516/

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Hey Ed,

Thanks for that :)

Might want to take a look at the crankcase bungs as well:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade...view/2690/516/

I saw a few pics of a 675 after a lowside and the GSG bungs protected the upper parts of the bike, but the crankcases really got nailed!

I think I'll go for both sets!

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Any ideas what to buy these days for for an 08 crash bungs wise?

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Holy thread resurrection, Batman :)

My 06 S model came with R&Gs fitted when I bought it. I was sceptical about how effective they would be, but then after I'd had the bike for a year, it rolled off the side stand and went down on the road. The crash bungs took the brunt, which meant no damage at all to engine cases, fairing, plastics etc.

The sum total of the damage was: toe peg of gear lever snapped (welded back on for a fiver), scraped crash bung (trimmed clean with a craft knife), scuff to bar-end weight and one cracked indicator lens (superglued back together). Without the bungs it would have been quite costly. In my view, they're worth the money for minimising the damage caused by this kind of incident alone.

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crash bungs are good for what happened to Craig but i can tell you that with or without the damage is roughly the same when the bike is slid down the road. i have seen the results of both quite a few times. the problem with crash bungs is that they "bend" which smashes/cracks the lower fairings on a faired bike.

Personally i have never wasted my money on them. yes some people swear by them but these people have only ever used them is very slow low sides or dropping off stands.

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Disagree with you there mate I have high sided an SV albeit fairly slow and they saved wrecking the radiator and the same in a fairly fast low side.

The motosliders don't bend/fold up anything near as badly as the R+G design or the useless OEM ones.


Yes it might still crack the tupperware a bit but if it saves bending subframes and twisting radiators...

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I have R & G's and I high sided at around 20mph when I changed down without pulling the clutch fully in and locked the rear. The only damage was to the rear brake lever, the end of the front brake lever and the radiator cap was dislodged and I lost half the coolant. The crash bung itself broke off half way down as it took the brunt of the impact.

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Some interesting blast from the past names in the first three pages of this thread.I wonder if Dangerous Dave is still off doing those "dark ops" with his mates from that balcony.All 827 of them!

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My R&Gs have always bent and snapped off in several low speed lowsides. I think it's actually the attachment bolt that's at fault. My Motosliders were much better and the slider was usually still attached but half ground away - which is more what you'd expect.

Having said that, i'd imagine a bike at low speed could actually hit the ground a lot harder than one at higher speed in a corner as you're already tipped over so there's less distance to fall.

Can you still get Motosliders? Nate and his website seem to have disappeared completely. I'd have another set in preference to R&Gs.