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Steve H 27-06-07 09:46 AM

Meet the new Boss............
 
.....................same as the old boss!?

Goodbye and good riddance to Tony Blair.
Oh wait, Gordon Brown, just as bad imo. :(

Thank you for listening. ;)

keithd 27-06-07 09:48 AM

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gordon brown is just as bad?

blimey, not exactly given him a fair crack o' the whip....

i'd hate to start a job one day and be ridiculed before i'd even sat at my desk...

Steve H 27-06-07 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1223195)
gordon brown is just as bad?

blimey, not exactly given him a fair crack o' the whip....

i'd hate to start a job one day and be ridiculed before i'd even sat at my desk...

I won't even begin to start with what a 'Time Bomb Legacy' Brown has left for the U.Ks economy. Watch this space.
Also, one of his first 'missions' is Affordable Housing. Yeah, all to be placed in the South East of England.

keithd 27-06-07 10:01 AM

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ah, his previous job. i thought you were speaking of his abilites and achievements as premier..

wyrdness 27-06-07 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223203)
Also, one of his first 'missions' is Affordable Housing. Yeah, all to be placed in the South East of England.

Affordable housing? I seem to remember that we had that before Labour got in.

Average UK house price 1997 - £80,000
Average UK house price 2007 - £210,000
Average London house price 2007 - £350,000
Average North-East house price 2007 - £129,000

Viney 27-06-07 10:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223203)
I won't even begin to start with what a 'Time Bomb Legacy' Brown has left for the U.Ks economy. Watch this space.
Also, one of his first 'missions' is Affordable Housing. Yeah, all to be placed in the South East of England.

Where its needed. Housing's cheaper up north anyway.

Steve H 27-06-07 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Viney (Post 1223219)
Where its needed. Housing's cheaper up north anyway.

True, but it does not make it the right solution.
Like we need more people flocking to the already most populated area of Northern Europe. :smt096
Viney, you should understand, living in Bromley.

keithd 27-06-07 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wyrdness (Post 1223217)
Affordable housing? I seem to remember that we had that before Labour got in.

Average UK house price 1997 - £80,000
Average UK house price 2007 - £210,000
Average London house price 2007 - £350,000
Average North-East house price 2007 - £129,000

brilliant, my house is worth more than the national average.

happy with that :thumbsup: im minted me...

Steve H 27-06-07 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1223240)
brilliant, my house is worth more than the national average.

happy with that :thumbsup: im minted me...

Yeah, so is mine,........... only because it is in the S.E. though.
The whole of my property is worth £X mentality is totally academic.
A bit worrying when a major part of a UK citizens so called financial 'wealth' revolves around
figures dreamt up by uneducated wideboys (ie Estate Agents)

I am guessing that you were being 'ironic' though Keith.

keithd 27-06-07 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223245)
Yeah, so is mine,........... only because it is in the S.E. though.
The whole of my property is worth £X mentality is totally academic.
A bit worrying when a major part of a UK citizens so called financial 'wealth' revolves around
figures dreamt up by uneducated wideboys (ie Estate Agents)

I am guessing that you were being 'ironic' though Keith.

yes indeedy i am. my house is only worth that ("worth" being used in the loosest sense of the word) if i sell it now, and the equity gained will be gobbled (fnarr) up by the next purchase unless i decide to downgrade.

but its all a moooot point as i aint moving. so there. *arms folded icon thingy*

Ed 27-06-07 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223229)
True, but it does not make it the right solution.
Like we need more people flocking to the already most populated area of Northern Europe. :smt096
Viney, you should understand, living in Bromley.


Housing is not necessarily cheaper 'up north' - wherever that might be. Anyway it all depends on affordability, doesn't it?

As an aside, where my MIL lives in Falmouth there are scat jobs - no industry left, and Labour has done nothing to regenerate west Cornwall. But house prices are way beyond the rewach of locals, it's rich Londoners buying investment properties that has caused the problem. Yes it's a free market etc etc etc but even so this simply illustrates that it is not a simple geographic spread.

As for Gordon Brown, well I don't know much about the man. He strikes me as cerebral but not lofty, probably a bit more in touch, but then his paw print is all over Labour's stealth taxes so difficult to say. Problem is, what's the alternative?

Baph 27-06-07 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1223269)
yes indeedy i am. my house is only worth that ("worth" being used in the loosest sense of the word) if i sell it now, and the equity gained will be gobbled (fnarr) up by the next purchase unless i decide to downgrade.

but its all a moooo point as i aint moving. so there. *arms folded icon thingy*

Because a cows opinion doesn't matter, right?

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Steve H 27-06-07 11:29 AM

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yep, affordable housing and cheaper houses are two completely different things.
I am not denying that Brown is obviously a bright chap, just totally misguided. ;)

Steve H 27-06-07 02:47 PM

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Brown is now officially the new Prime Minister of Great Britain.............................Cosmic. :smt018







Nothing to do with me, Thank God. ;)

Ceri JC 27-06-07 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223507)
Nothing to do with me, Thank God. ;)

No one else in the country (bar the labour party themselves) elected him either. Some democracy, eh? ;)

Alpinestarhero 27-06-07 03:22 PM

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I'm dreading the time I have to try and buy a place to live. At this rate, even a small one-bedroomed flat is out of the question.

:-s

Matt

Jelster 27-06-07 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1223203)
Also, one of his first 'missions' is Affordable Housing. Yeah, all to be placed in the South East of England.

There's more people down here, and it's more expensive... So that's probably not a bad idea :rolleyes:

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The Basket 27-06-07 11:04 PM

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Gordon is a local lad. Yippee.

Mr Brown votes on English matters and the English voters have no democratic right to remove him.

Democracy...Pah...who needs it.

Live in Scotland. Cheaper housing...wider spaces and the Prime Minister can be ignored by that nice Mr Salmond.

TheDangerousQuietOne 27-06-07 11:38 PM

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[quote=Ed;1223272]

As an aside, where my MIL lives in Falmouth there are scat jobs - no industry left, and Labour has done nothing to regenerate west Cornwall. But house prices are way beyond the rewach of locals, it's rich Londoners buying investment properties that has caused the problem. Yes it's a free market etc etc etc but even so this simply illustrates that it is not a simple geographic spread.

quote]

Don't forget that horrible, job-stealing, house-buying, rowdy, drunk students like me have pushed up the house prices immeasurably because our numbers are nearly doubling next academic year and we all need somewhere to live...

...though that is not all that it seems either...there have hardly been any houses built at all in the local area in the last few years meaning that as soon as a house comes up for sale it is snapped up by either a) a rich londoner or b) a student or c) one of the local landlords several of which own DOZENS of properties.

Surely the problem would be alleviated if someone actually bothered building new houses instead of whining that they can't buy any. The only housing project in Penryn atm is a development of 2-3 bedroom houses, approxiametly 10 of them which are being built incredibly slowly and will all be sold before anyone even knows what they look like.

If I had several million to hand and the council would actually approve it I'd be only too happy to build plenty of small houses and only sell them to locals, unfortunately within 3yrs 90% of them would be rented out to students as it's a good money maker.

rob13 27-06-07 11:58 PM

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Along with the rest of Britain I have seen a steep increase in the tax burden which has risen disproportionately with the standard of services which they are supposed to improve. Many have fell foul of the pensions they have worked so hard for, the cost of living is much higher now and it is unbelievably more difficult to get onto the housing ladder. Brown doesnt have a mandate to govern the country.

Brown needs to stabilise inflation and level taxation, gain greater powers of removal over failed asylum seekers & illegal immigrants, improve transport & network links and the NHS, cut red tape in the criminal justice system and ease the prison spaces crisis.

It is asking too much, but the country should have never got into the state its in if it had been run properly in the first place.

the_runt69 28-06-07 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by robchester (Post 1223953)
Along with the rest of Britain I have seen a steep increase in the tax burden which has risen disproportionately with the standard of services which they are supposed to improve. Many have fell foul of the pensions they have worked so hard for, the cost of living is much higher now and it is unbelievably more difficult to get onto the housing ladder. Brown doesnt have a mandate to govern the country.

Brown needs to stabilise inflation and level taxation, gain greater powers of removal over failed asylum seekers & illegal immigrants, improve transport & network links and the NHS, cut red tape in the criminal justice system and ease the prison spaces crisis.

It is asking too much, but the country should have never got into the state its in if it had been run properly in the first place.

Glad to see the back of smiling Tony all spin and no substance, the only good thing is Brown is no longer chanchellor of the exechecker, under him my tax burden has nearly doubled because of all his stealth taxes. My pension will be taxed when i get it and the pension fund is being taxed so can expect lower returns. As this country is getting older per average head of population youd think he do something to keep the burden of paying for pensioners down but no he's taxed and squeezed people's pension funds so you cant look forward to early retirement thus providing more jobs for the young. Roll on a general election then we can elect our own choice for prime minister

timwilky 28-06-07 09:50 AM

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Re house prices

Yes, I live "Up North" I have an average 3 bed semi built in 1958. I bought it for £20,000 in 1984 and paid off the mortgage a while back. Average prices in my area are about £180,000 for similar housing. My employers want me to relocate and cannot understand why at my time of life I don't want to take on the burden of a mortgage as I cannot buy similar for the same price.

My 20 year old son is currently struggling to get a mortgage application approval for the little 2 bed house he is trying to buy at £140,000. This fills me full of fear, starting off life with such a heavy debt. I took out a 2 times mortgage. He is looking at 5 times and in fear that if he does not buy now, he never will.

As for the rest, I am considerably worse off with taxation than I was 10 years ago. The company I work for has shred about 25,000 jobs in the UK over that period, roads/rail have become worse. Social housing has not kept pace with demand. Yet over development with nasty little boxes has blighted once pleasant rural communities.

Strange that whilst I would never consider voting for any labour politician, that I prefer the honesty of politicians such as Tony Benn and old labour than the spin and rhetoric of Tony and Gordon's illussion act.


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