I have a target!
 

Lose 20 Kilos before the trainee in the office passes his test.

The facts

Those of you that have seen me before, i suppose lately is the better way to look at it, i am a bit of a porker. I am around 115 Kilos i think from last time i looked at scales in the gym.

The guy in the office is 22 had no lessons and doesn't even have a provisional.

The Buts

I have to do it before he passes his driving test, now i reckon that is around 4 months all in all. That for me is less than a kilo a week, not sure if its possible. If he does a crashcourse i have 3 months to lose my weight after he passes on a crashcourse.

The Forfeit

Whoever is the loser pays for a night out.

Can i do it? I think its gonna be a big push but i reckon maybe yer.

Whadda you guys think?

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You weigh more than double my weight!

Come and stay with us for a while, Stu. We'll lock you in the spare room and feed you dry cream crackers and water..............I guarantee you'll lose kilos's! And if we charge you 50 quid a week you'll lose pounds too!
:D

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Have a look at a programme on living or living 2 I think, called the biggest loser , me and the wife watch it, purely for research you understand, but its quite good though, not sure what times it,s on , good luck with it though.

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do you want to do it?

if you realy do, yes you can

what is your plan?

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What Hovis said.

Get the running going- doesn't have to be fast, but get a good distance and that'll really help shed the pounds. Though I recommend a decent pair of trainers for it- look after your joints and all that.

Give up booze for a month- this makes the WORLD of difference and you'll be more motivated too.REmember- a night on the lash takes you back two steps! And you'll have LOADS of cash to play with too.

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i'd be careful on the running as its quite high impact & needs to built up to, walking up hill can be just as efective, also the X-trainner is good low impact.

but............

what is your diet like? you can burn 1000 cals in the gym, but if you are having pie & chips twice a day & drinking 5+ pints a night, you are wasting your time.

set your self realistic goals, its do-able.

my mate joined slimming world, he finds the weekly weighing session realy good.

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you can easily lose that much weight a week. And 3 months?! Try just getting a provisional and the 2 tests booked in less than 5!

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20 kilos could be very tough to lose. I tried but gave up because ice cream is better than sweating... Oooh green & blacks...

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Good luck, but if he's a quick learner and wants it enough he could be done within a 5 or 6 weeks tops. There are always cancellations, you just need to phone up several times a day and you can apply in person for a provisional which cuts the "within 3 weeks" time down a fair bit apparently because the checks are all done and approved already.

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Nope-esp as im leaving a stick of rock for you at my work :)

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20Kg unlikley to be lost in 3 months, 10 is more realistic

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Why? are you taking up pole dancing full time :D Eat properly and plenty of exersise is the way to go:cool:

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And don't over do it in the gym cause muscle wieghs more than fat!!!

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Totally with Hovis on this - and his later comments on high/low impact.

If you want to do it, you can. If you don't really want to, then you won't.

I really don't mean to be nasty and horrid when I say that 122 kg at your age is not healthy and that with respect you need to do something about it. I disagree with Neio on rate of weight loss, you can lose 40kg but it will be a shock.

Before you do anything, go visit your GP and share your plans with the doc. Seriously. You won't be wasting their time, that's what you pay your taxes for, and they will respect you for it. S/he will tell you whether it's sensible or not. It's not advisable to do anything which is going to lead to problems elsewhere.

Good luck:D

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Where's mine

It'll be easy Stu, keep lusting after my daughter and I'll carve 20 Kilos off you mate

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you didnt ask for any! Tsm has sweeties, and kinvig and plowsie have sticks of rock.
And play nicely with poor stu

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As Ed said go to the doctor first then should give you medical or at least a check up......

if you want to lose wait you will need to stop drinking for a while (one or two now & then is ok) cut out all the crap everything it is a must, eat less, not eat late at night and reduce you carb in take.

Set a training program and goals, what you want to achive and by when the staff at the gym should do this for you, its why you pay to go there. Don't over do it either, if you go mad with training you will hurt yourself and won't be able to do any training, start slow and small build up. It will take befoe anything happens.

Go by % body fat rather than BMI which is total crap doesn't take into account mucle density. Yes you will put on weight if use weights and up them, muscle weighs more. Do lots of core muscle execrise it will help strenghen the body.
Also stretch your self out before training it will improve your flexability and help prevent injury.

Finally there also products which you buy which will help you slim and burn fat of quicker holland and barret sell that kind of stuff, its not a magical weight loss pill its just an aid,you have to all the above to make it work.

Well good luck, it won't be easy but will be worth it! I know all this casue I went from 11 1/2 to 10 stone and feel a hell of better for it!

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20kg is very easily achieved for someone who is over weight.

I'm not over weight anymore really but can still seems to loose a 1kg a gym session at the moment.

2 weeks ago when i just started my new programme I was 89kg........I'm now as of last night 84.6kg. I do the below programme 4 times a week and swim/sauna in the pool in between.

15 mins on variable run (warm up)
20 mins on variable topXT - which is like a swimming or canoeing depending on how you position it.
20mins on variable bike.
15 mins on variable Xtrainer
3 x 15 pull ups with 30kg weight
3 x 15 dip with 30kg weight
3 x 20 sit ups on bio ball
3 x 20 back things with 40kg weight

Take about 1hr 30ish minutes but burns 1000+ calories.....and you REALLY feel it. You wont put on hardly any weight in muscle which has been my problem in the past. Put on weight in muscle, get lazy, then end up even fatter.

I want to get to 12.5stone but cant see how that will be possible as there is not alot of fat left on me really. :( Personal trainer seems to think its possible though.:smt104

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not a problem............. i would not advise going on a "diet" what i would advise is eating healthy.
try to cut out alcohol chocolate crisps fizzy pop junk food etc.... but if you realy like one of these just be sensible,

drink 2 litres of water per day

snack on fruit

try to cut down on bread (wholemeal is better for you)

try not to eat a big meal after 7-8pm

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Pepsi Max is a good compromise. 0 calories 0 Fat 0 Sugar etc still tastes reasonable.

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That's quite hard to do, if you don't count tea / coffe / beer.

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sell your bike and buy a pushiron(bicycle)

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i know............ i dont/cant do it (unless i count coffee)

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I hate water :( I drink easily 6+ pints of robinsons Apple & black current (sugar free) squash though :lol:

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'Course you can do it.

Mind over matter.

Exercise more, cut down on calories and eat sensibly.

20kg shouldn't be too much for you to lose in three months given your starting weight. (and I don't mean this in a nasty way at all).

Once you get into the habit of exercise, it becomes fun rather than a chore.

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swimming and cycling best way to go Stu running when your heavy is not a good thing at all, grab your rubber hat with the flowers on and get to the local aqua fit class

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:smt044 'Professional' kayaker! :joker: I suppose you trained at HPP most of time though which does not count as water. Brown sludge is more accurate.... :D






Sorry Plowsie, doing a Plowsie on one of your threads! :offtopic:

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So true, once you notice a difference it can become addictive. Its the slow periods where you notice no change other than just being tired that you have to watch out for. You get tempted to eat stupidly at these times out of depression. you need to resist.

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happy and slightly overweight or skinny and depressed? the choice is yours

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happy and slightly overweight.......... but define slightly;)

im not wanting to offend the good mr plowsie, but he has posted his weight, so i feel he is ok with it, if he was to look at the hight to weight chart it would probaly say he should be 10 stone (slight exsageration)(as they IMO are utter b*ll*x).

now, he has said he is close to 20 stone, (which i was) but he looks a fair bit taller than me? in piccys?

so i would say about 15 stone would be his ideal weight,

all this is IMO only

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Summer training mainly included, bratislava, Austria, Bourg stmaurice, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland.....All of which count as water that is considerably bigger in volume and standard than most in the uk.....I have paddled in more countries and on more rivers than most people can even begin imagine or dream of.

And that was just competing, not even mentioning what i did and where I went in persuit of personal kayaking fun.

Anyway off my soapbox ;):p

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Cheers for all the support and comments guys. Gym is the best way to go for me, got an Esporta membership through work so no excuse really. I am a heavy Coke drinker, don't really have sweets too much. Not a fan of fruit at all, I can't seem to muscle fruit, apple maybe but banana's make me heave.

I want to do it cos i need to do it. Gonna live off mum's dinners and lunch's for a while, should save me some money also.

Not eating breakfast though is that a benefit to it or can it affect the pattern i eat in?

Cheers

Stu

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6ft 1 or 2ish

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breakfast is a must, as it kicks your metalisum (?) in to work

20 mins of cardio b4 breaky is good

scrap the coke 7 spoons of suger in 1 can

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What about the Pepsi Max idea?

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Pepsi Max is amazing mmmmmm......I'm not sure if it is actually healthy but it does have next to nothing in it. I'm sure someone more well informed will let me know its actually bad for me :(

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what Hovis said.

Some things I found helped me

1. Eat breakfast, try porridge or museli, it'll keep you going till lunchtime and you wont feel like snacking on sweets.

2. Cut out all the fizzy drinks, try fruit juice or just water, even Pepsi max I suspect is probably full of junk, even though it says its not.

3. Instead of eating a Mars bar, eat a piece of fruit.

4. You could try drinking green tea, its supposed to promote your body into fat burning. I think its called diuretic ( sp )

5. If you must have sugar in your drinks or on museli etc, use brown sugar.

6. Stay off ready meals they are full of fat and rubbish, prepare your own meals from fresh ingredients.

Rice and Pasta are good to eat, but only if you eat the brown / wholemeal stuff, the white stuff has been processed and it doesnt have any good stuff in it.

Basically I found that eating what I liked was the way that worked for me, I just had to eat less of it, Liz and I will quite happily eat between the two of us a curry that is supposed to serve 4, so have smaller portions to.

Your going to find it hard, its not easy, but if you have will power you will do it.

I found I felt like dog poo when I stopped eating sweets and foods that were high in salt and sugar. Really bad cold turkey no the sugar withdrawl for a week or so. So you'll have that go through but it does get easier and after a while you wont miss the sweets and crips.

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Just remember any excercise is better than none, I would ditch the bike in the winter months and go to work on a spacehopper, you,ll lose pounds and it will be good for the enviroment as well, plus all the good advice everyone else gave and dont forget any decent gym will give a checkover and a program to stick to. Good luck

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true, but it depends on what sort of muscle you put on, if you gain loads of it in low reps high weight then yes but it is far better to do low weight and high reps. This will define the muscle rather than pack it on. yes you will add some but it will be defined. Also do CV 3 times a week to burn fat, raise your metabolic rate whic hwill cause you to burn fat at a faster rate wht ever you do.

my current regime is:

run 3 times a week 5-6 miles a piece taking in some big hills!!

and do the following weights regime

Monday and Friday

Bench Dip 2 sets 12 reps
Kick back 2 sets 12 reps
Tricep extensions 2 sets 12 reps
Zottman curl 2 sets 12 reps
Hammer curl or concentration curl 2 sets 12 reps
Biceps curl or preachers curl 2 sets 12 reps
Wrist curl 1 set 12 reps
reverse wrist curl 1 set 12 reps
Weighted squats (20KG) 2 sets 15 reps
Weighted lunge (20KG) 2 sets 15 reps
Calf raises 2 sets 15 reps
2 different abb exersises 15 reps each

Wednesday

Bench Press 3 sets 12 reps
Bent over row 3 sets 12 reps
rotation press 3 sets 12 reps
Catch (abbs) 3 sets 15 reps
isometric back extensions 3 sets 4 reps (4 second hold on each rep)

That seems to keep me going quite well

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Don't skip breakfast. You'll only end up eating far too much lunch.

I wouldn't cut out the food you like entirely. Just have it in moderation and exercise more.