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timwilky 22-12-07 08:40 AM

jobs worths
 
I nominate my local plod. see http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/chorley/Fury-at-39defrosting39-fine.3612005.jp

the_lone_wolf 22-12-07 09:01 AM

Re: jobs worths
 
way to gain the respect of the local community...

w*****:rolleyes:

Defender 22-12-07 09:26 AM

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The guys attitude earned him the fine. I'm with the police on this one.

The article likes to point out the guy had a Mercedes - What's the significance of this?

Quote:

"The officer tried to offer words of advice to the individual, but the male refused to accept them and so the officer was left with no option but to issue a fixed penalty notice of £30."
He should have accepted the advice and in not doing so, has to accept a fine - What a plonker!

-Ralph- 22-12-07 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Defender (Post 1371009)
The guys attitude earned him the fine. I'm with the police on this one.

+1, ish. Maybe the copper got out of the wrong side of the bed and it's a pretty stupid thing to get a fine for, but he guy does seem to have a bit of a spoilt snobbish attitude

"It's not possible to defrost your car and sit inside it because it's too cold and I think they don't take that into consideration."

Too cold to sit in a car? When was the last time this guy stood at a bus stop? FFS...

SoulKiss 22-12-07 10:17 AM

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With some of the other threads on here about legalities and the police, there is only one answer to this.

Yes it may be a stupid law, but it is a law (its even named, tho I have never heard of it, "quitting")

We are now saying that it is bad that the police didnt just enforce the law?

It does sound like the police officer DID try to avoid the paperwork, but even if he didnt then its the right thing.

Bluepete 22-12-07 10:20 AM

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Bet he won't do it again will he!

Frosting (stealing cars whilst being warmed up) is a massive problem for us. Every frosty morning I will be given the reg of between 5 and 10 frosted cars, and that's just for two divisions out of the entire force.

You don't get any insurance pay-out either.

There is an offence of quitting, this arrogant man committed the offence and would not accept advice.

I don't think the cops was being a jobsworth, he was doing a good job, just by being there I am sure no cars were stolen. It's obviously a major problem for Lancs too, hence the operation in progress.

I bet there would be a "Local Police fail to act" if they did nothing and more cars were stolen.

Defender 22-12-07 10:33 AM

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I watched 'Tonight' last night and it featured zero tolerance.
http://www.itv.com/News/tonight/epis...e/default.html

Reconstructions of actual cases taken to court were shown to people including Sun columnist & radio talk show presenter Jon Gaunt and law professor Rod Morgan, former head of the Youth Justice Board.

What came out of the programme for me was that people should be reasoned with before being fined / convicted for lesser crimes such as littering, dog fouling, graffiti etc . If they cant be reasoned with then they should be fined etc.

One story featured a 10-year old girl who had chalked on a neighbours wall which a policeman witnessed. Instead of talking to the girls parents and the girl being asked to clean the wall, the police took the girls fingerprints and she was fined £40.

I thought this programme might be on tvcatchup but cant see it
http://www.tvcatchup.com/shows/

Bluepete 22-12-07 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Defender (Post 1371047)
What came out of the programme for me was that people should be reasoned with before being fined / convicted for lesser crimes such as littering, dog fouling, graffiti etc . If they cant be reasoned with then they should be fined etc.

Having read Tim's article, it would seem that this was the direction the Cop went in, but the motorist refused and was dealt with appropriatly.

Tiger 55 22-12-07 11:09 AM

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"It's not possible to defrost your car and sit inside it because it's too cold and I think they don't take that into consideration."

Probably not a biker this chap...

grh1904 22-12-07 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BluePete (Post 1371040)
Bet he won't do it again will he!

Frosting (stealing cars whilst being warmed up) is a massive problem for us. Every frosty morning I will be given the reg of between 5 and 10 frosted cars, and that's just for two divisions out of the entire force.

You don't get any insurance pay-out either.

There is an offence of quitting, this arrogant man committed the offence and would not accept advice.

I don't think the cops was being a jobsworth, he was doing a good job, just by being there I am sure no cars were stolen. It's obviously a major problem for Lancs too, hence the operation in progress.

I bet there would be a "Local Police fail to act" if they did nothing and more cars were stolen.

+1.

If his car had gone, and his insurance company offered him (cough) "market value" less his excess, would all that cost more than £30 fine ????

The Police officer has just saved him from himself.


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