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Lozzo 15-01-08 09:22 PM

Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
This afternoon was spent fiddling about with the new SV, fitting the R6 throttle tube and a Scottoiler that's been on about 6 different bikes.

The throttle tube was a doddle compared to fitting one to a naked bike. I like the way the throttle housing comes apart on the S, it makes refitting the cables really easy.

When it came to fitting the Scottoiler I put the RMV in the usual place on the left side of the rear underseat at a slight angle and ran the pipework down the left side. I've always hated cable-tying delivery pipes to the swingarm and supergluing the floppy guide things has never worked for me, they always fall off. So this time I decided to be a little bit more imaginative and I went for a couple of P-clips screwed into the underside of the swingarm.

My local motor parts shop stocks stainless P-clips for silly cheap money, so I bought an 8mm one and 6mm one. When I had marked out exactly where I wanted them I centre punched the swingarm and drilled each hole with a 3mm bit, then opened them out to 5mm. I then tapped each one with a M6x1.00 tap and fitted coppaslipped Triumph stainless steel 8mm head screws that hold the shark's fin on 955i Daytonas. The result is a nice neat delivery pipe installation that gives enough friction to hold the plastic pipe tight yet keeps it moveable for adjustment and when it needs to be swung out of the way.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/...ff97829c_b.jpg

northwind 15-01-08 09:25 PM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
Wonder how long it'll be before someone tells you drilling holes in a swingarm = instant doom?

Lozzo 15-01-08 09:34 PM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind (Post 1387424)
Wonder how long it'll be before someone tells you drilling holes in a swingarm = instant doom?

I shall then ask my ex-girlfriend, who has a PhD in Mechanical Engineering, specialising in automotive technology and development, to supply me with documented proof that they are talking nonsense.

It doesn't seem to bother R+G when they sell Shark's fins that require drilling and tapping 2 M6x1.00 holes in the underside of the swingarm, and I'm sure they did their engineering homework before selling them in the USA :D

northwind 15-01-08 11:04 PM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
The naysayers will tell you that where you've put the hole is exactly in the middle, which is the worst place to introduce a weakness :wink: Whereas the R&Gs are near the end and so are subjected to lower forces.

Me, I'd just point out that I used superglue, because it's easier :smt040

Lozzo 15-01-08 11:10 PM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
I'd rather have two holes 8 inches apart than close together. The risk of a stress fracture between two close holes is much greater, no matter how close or far from the pivot point. I'm sure if the swingarm has a weak point it's where the wheel spindle goes through.

If I crash and die because the swingarm snaps, I'm sure Ogden will pop back on my behalf and tell you not to do it to yours.

injury_ian 15-01-08 11:56 PM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
Nice installation, nothing if not perminant!

Quick Q tho.... why is there an elephant on your tyre?

Lozzo 16-01-08 12:01 AM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
The Elephant is Metzeler's trade mark.

http://www.metzelermoto.co.uk/web/default.page

northwind 16-01-08 01:25 AM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 1387647)
I'd rather have two holes 8 inches apart than close together. The risk of a stress fracture between two close holes is much greater, no matter how close or far from the pivot point. I'm sure if the swingarm has a weak point it's where the wheel spindle goes through.

There's 2 nice big holes on the inside of the RHS arm as well, where the cable management loop is riveted on. But because those are Suzuki holes, they don't seem to count :mrgreen:

(lets here it for the return of the big green grin smiley to the shortlist)

I think your install looks ace btw. Did you think about doing it along the inside of the arm at all?

Lozzo 16-01-08 01:33 AM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
When I was thinking it over I thought about putting it along the inside of the swingarm, but it's still visible there. I like Scottoiler installations to be all out of sight and as unobtrusive as possible. On my Daytona I routed the pipe inside the brake hose tube atop the chainguard and drilled through for it to hang on the inside of the shark's fin, and used p-clips to hold it in place there. If you weren't looking for it you'd never have known it was there, until you spotted the sodding great touring kit behind the number plate :)

You mention the holes for the brake hose guides, I did think about those and even commented on them in another place.

Stig 16-01-08 08:02 AM

Re: Fitting a Scottoiler delivery pipe.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 1387686)
The Elephant is Metzeler's trade mark.

http://www.metzelermoto.co.uk/web/default.page

the elephant is there to see if you can rub it out. I got down to the toes on the front and the knees on the rear.


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