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gettin2dizzy 24-04-08 08:06 PM

Strictly baby fighting club
 
Couldn't watch more than 5 minutes. What a disturbing program. Sick *******s

Warthog 24-04-08 08:07 PM

Re: Strictly baby fighting club
 
Yeah I already didn't even bother, it would just rile me.

busasean 24-04-08 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1489576)
Couldn't watch more than 5 minutes. What a disturbing program. Sick *******s

yep, parents were all scum and I dont even have kids!!!!

markmoto 24-04-08 09:53 PM

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i agree there has to be limits to this type of thing but i also think it has its merits in a controled enviroment i,e teaches kids disapline and gives them an interest, dont think they should be allowed to do it under 8 yrs of age though.

ljharmitt 24-04-08 10:10 PM

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i do martial arts myself, and watched this, i was training since i was 9 and have people in my club who were fighting at 5 :o. i know what you say but it was her choice, it is a lot more controlled than it looks. I have fought for england at various different times and never been or seen anyone get seriously injured. Nearly been training 9 years so i do have experience. I do fight kickboxing but have fought against and also trained with thai boxing and such. My club actually competed against the "assasin" squad and won lol. (The ones who called their kid Thai).

So it is actually safe lol

markmoto 24-04-08 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ljharmitt (Post 1489833)
i do martial arts myself, and watched this, i was training since i was 9 and have people in my club who were fighting at 5 :o. i know what you say but it was her choice, it is a lot more controlled than it looks. I have fought for england at various different times and never been or seen anyone get seriously injured. Nearly been training 9 years so i do have experience. I do fight kickboxing but have fought against and also trained with thai boxing and such. My club actually competed against the "assasin" squad and won lol. (The ones who called their kid Thai).

So it is actually safe lol

Yep its alot safer than people think, that programme was very biased in the way it was edited, as most things are on tv now.

Warthog 25-04-08 10:59 AM

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Its not about whether it is safe or not, it is about making kids grow up in an environment of violence. Martial arts are great because they also teach you meditation and respect and a good way of life, but I didn't see those kids getting much other than a beating.

Put another way, I do not want to live in a world where kids are raised to be fighters, it would just make them resort to violence in later life.

ljharmitt 25-04-08 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 1490160)
Its not about whether it is safe or not, it is about making kids grow up in an environment of violence. Martial arts are great because they also teach you meditation and respect and a good way of life, but I didn't see those kids getting much other than a beating.

Put another way, I do not want to live in a world where kids are raised to be fighters, it would just make them resort to violence in later life.

You have no idea, it is most likely to stop them being violent, like i say i have met loads of fighters in my time as a martial artist and you very very rarely see anyone who is violent, it is more likely to control your anger. You do learn discipline in any martial art, its just that the programme wasnt concentrating on that aspect, just the influence the parents have on their children.

There is always discipline, and people do get upset when they lose. But you never see them hitting the ref or the opponent when they do.

arc123 25-04-08 11:53 AM

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Don't see a problem with juniors competeing per se. I think the parents came across as typical 'pushy parents', which does occur in virtually every sport, just probably looks worse when it's fighting involved.

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Yep its alot safer than people think, that programme was very biased in the way it was edited, as most things are on tv now.
Not sure I agree with this - I think that the documentary makers made a good programme. Nothing was portrayed that wasn't said or implied or caught on camera.

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Its not about whether it is safe or not, it is about making kids grow up in an environment of violence...... Put another way, I do not want to live in a world where kids are raised to be fighters, it would just make them resort to violence in later life.
Really?? Where do you think Ricky Hatton, Joe Calzaghe, David Haye etc etc started? IMO training like this tends to provide people with self-discipline, work ethic, respect, learning to both win & lose. I have witnessed 'youngsters' (aged around 12ish) compete at KB/Muay fight, continue to compete into as they get older, and not one has grown into the type of person who 'resorts to violence in later life'. Quite the opposite in fact. Many people come to kb who think they are 'hard' or know how to fight/throw a punch, and loose this attitude pretty quickly when they realise how poor they actually are. So my experience shows the opposite to what you are saying.

gettin2dizzy 25-04-08 11:58 AM

Re: Strictly baby fighting club
 
Pushing your 4 year old daughter to fight in a ring is so disturbing these parents should have their children taken away from them. Wait until these kids are old enough to make their own decisions for themselves.


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