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neillfergie 26-11-08 10:42 AM

Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
First Person: Michael Collins the 140mph biker

By John Hogan

First published in TWO, Michael was followed by an unmarked police biker as he rode at speeds of well over 100mph.

http://www.visordown.com/news/images...140mph-ban.jpghttp://www.visordown.com/t.gifI'm 22 years old and I'm a criminal. I did my bike test when I was 17 but my licence started getting fragile, so I went racing. I spent three years winning races at MRO level, set some lap records and broke some bones. I enjoyed it but it got too expensive. I didn't want to go back to road riding but the deal on the GSX-R was too good to miss. I didn't want anything bigger than a 600, they are ample and I thought it would keep me out of trouble. The bike wasn't exactly quiet, it had a full Akropovic system (which didn't help) nor did the small number plate.
My commute was down lovely open roads that you could fit four lanes down if you wanted to. I left home just after seven in the morning, as normal. There was a CBR600 following me. I wasn't to know it then, but he was an unmarked police bike. I was brought to their attention a month and a half before, for riding fast on that route. He followed me for about four or five minutes, gaining enough evidence to arrest me.



I pulled into a service station and he waited for me up the road. When I set off he followed me again. He left me a couple of miles from work. I was well aware of him being there, he was riding really close to me, more than any other rider normally would ride. I carried on riding quickly, partly because I didn't want him that close to me in case he was incapable, and stupidly because I assumed that it was just another one of the bikes I see on my way to work every day.
When I arrived at work there was a police car waiting for me. I was arrested, they seized my leathers, lid and my bike. I didn't think I was riding beyond my own limit. Watching the video while being interviewed I thought the policeman's riding was very sketchy. I was kept in a cell overnight because in their eyes I was too much of a danger to the public to be released that day.



I have never been in trouble with the police before and it definitely felt weird trying to get some sleep in a cell. My girlfriend didn't find out where I was until late at night, her mother logged a missing persons report when I didn't come home. She called the local hospitals and police stations, she actually called the police station I was being held at and asked if they had heard anything. They said that they hadn't even though I was being held downstairs.



They held me until I appeared in court, where I pleaded guilty because that was the advice that was given to me by the legal representation that the police provided me with. I got a two year ban, a three month suspended jail sentence and 240 hours community service. I believe the sentence that I got was worse because there was so much evidence. They had me doing double the speed limit in a thirty within the first four minutes of following me and a maximum of 125mph during the chase. When I went to the induction for my community service the kid sat next to me was caught with £1,500 worth of heroin on him, after a caution he was given 80 hours community service and was released. There are certain things you can do to reduce your term of community service, IT courses for example. If you have an education up to GCSE level or have a job you can't do them. The heroin dealer can do a 12-hour computer course and reduce his sentence by half.



This system has been devised after many years of refining the system to help people, this is supposed to make them better, which is pretty ****ed up. I'm ****ed off, I can accept the ban for the speeding, it was wrong. The suspended sentence I can cope with as I've never done anything wrong before this and don't plan on doing anything afterwards. But 240 hours of community service when I work six days a week, giving up every Sunday for a year to paint fences with proper criminals isn't going to do me any good whatsoever.



The police need more education in terms of the theory of dangerous driving, one of the policemen told me that while I was bolt upright, because I was under acceleration that I could fall of at any second. They don't really understand any other style of riding other than their own. I would love to get them on a track.



I've worked my **** of to get to the position I'm in here at work, but I'll have to take four or five steps back now. I do 16-hour days now that I have to use public transport, which sucks. It would be easier to move closer to my job, but I live ten steps from the beach and it feels like it would be just another thing I have to give up. I don't feel it's necessary to ride a bike on the road anymore, a car would do me now. If I had to give a message it would be that you don't know you're caught until you're caught. Always assume that you are being watched.





Discuss?

plowsie 26-11-08 10:54 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
Is this the kid whose riding was 10 times better than the copper and the copper nearly hit the biker coming the other way?

If so, nice riding mate, we all do it, maybe not all the way to 125mph but we all speed a little bit etc, but you were an unlucky one.

keithd 26-11-08 11:06 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
seems he got treated harsh when under caution.

but he was doing 60 in a 30, hit 125. i seem to think he's asking for trouble there.

comparing sentences with mr heroin man is pointless, never been in trouble before isn't a defence, im sure a large percentage of murderers hadn't been in trouble before.

harsh. but is it a lesson he'll not forget? will he speed again when he gets a bike. yep, i'd lay money he will so his punishment wont put him off.

Luckypants 26-11-08 11:11 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neillfergie (Post 1697966)
.... They had me doing double the speed limit in a thirty within the first four minutes of following me and a maximum of 125mph during the chase.

Bellend.

MiniMatt 26-11-08 11:14 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
I think there's a degree of arrogance in there which isn't justified but the point about the punishment being toward the extreme end of "fitting the crime" seems to have some validity.

There's a difference between "being in control" and "not being a danger to those around you". Yep, you can be perfectly in control doing double the 30 limit through towns and villages, you are in no danger of falling off due to too high speed through average village corner radius.

It's the danger of comparing track riding to road riding. You can do corner angle X at speed Y perfectly safely and in perfect control on a track. Put angle X on the road though and you're simply not going to avoid kid running out to fetch a ball, or old lady blindly ploughing through a junction if you're going at speed Y. Sure, it's ultimately the kid/old ladies fault, they didn't pay attention but most of the point of speed limits in towns is that it gives you the capacity and the time to avoid people who are not looking where they're going; the kid chasing a ball is still dead, doesn't really matter now if it was his fault or not, but if you were doing the speed limit the kid would be alive - soiled undergarments thanks to a bike narrowly missing him, but alive. You don't ride at an appropriate speed for the road, you ride at an appropriate speed for kids running out chasing a ball. I've got a huge problem with people doing 60 in a 30 zone, I've got very little problem with people doing 120 on a suitable NSL road.

The comparison with the heroin dealer cuts both ways. Both he and the dealer are ultimately endangering other people's lives. But can't the heroin dealer argue that he only endangers the lives of people who have chosen to endanger their lives? (I know, the nature of addiction is nothing like as easy, just making the point for arguments sake).

That said, does seem rather bonkers to keep him in remand until his court appearance.

Viney 26-11-08 11:15 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
Why is it called 140mph biker when he only got to 125mph?

keithd 26-11-08 11:16 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney (Post 1698007)
Why is it called 140mph biker when he only got to 125mph?

VAT

Biker Biggles 26-11-08 11:18 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
If it helps get him some sponsorship to get back into racing that would be good.
As for the police tactics we discussed it on another thread and my opinion was that the police follow was dangerous and reckless.They could have and should have stopped him as soon as he overstepped the mark,but were more interested in gathering more "evidence" so they could pin a bigger charge.

maviczap 26-11-08 11:22 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
H'mm, yes the speeding is excessive, but you've held you hands up to that, so fair do's. You can't undo what you've done, and as a father of two, I would have crucified you if you'd killed any children during you blast through the 30mph limit.

They should have banged up the Plymouth keeper for longer for what he did.

As for the herion kid, well the magistrates see them every day and the public interest has waned on banging them up for long stretches. The public are fed up with boy racers, no matter how good a rider/driver they are. So the magistrates are going to throw the book at you.

But as you only live 10 steps away from the beach, get you kicks by buying a speedboat or a jet ski and call it 'Fuzz Proof'. It'll make you feel beter :p

plowsie 26-11-08 11:22 AM

Re: Michael Collins the 140mph biker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keithd (Post 1698008)
VAT

Haha, love it.


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