Abba (stands).....
 

......sold me a stand, debited nearly a ton from my account, quoted 3 days delivery then subsequently emailed me and said they were out of stock and had a 2 week order backlog. :(

Did email me and apologise but bit naughty as they are still selling them without referring to any delay on the website.

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Still worth looking out an NWS if you can find one. Cancel your order if you can.

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Treacles holding my nws one to ransom :(

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

That's a damn cheek taking your cash before dispatch.

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

A bike shop did it to me too when I ordered a helmet online... took the £199 out of my bank account then emailed me to say they were out of stock and it would be up to 3 months before new stock arrived.

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Which bike shop was that, just so we know...

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Is this NWS site http://www.n-w-s.com/ misleading me into thinking they are still in business? (assuming that is the correct NWS stand)

I gather that one of the good things about the NWS is that it is universal between bikes, if the Abba uses tapered pins as well, how come it is not also universal?

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Abba doesn't use tapered pins, (it has adapters specific to each bike), and isn't as stable or easy to use.

That said there's nothing wrong with the Abba, it's just that the NWS is better, you're only going to buy one - get the right one.

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

I've got an abba stand and it's best garage-bit I've bought. But it is limited in use, so when I get chance I'll get some NWS-esque tapered pins made up to fit in the abba sockets. Wish I could afford a lathe!

Re: Abba (stands).....
 

Anyone got a picture of these or more specific about the tapered pins how long are they? Etc cheers