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Nick_69 04-11-09 07:57 PM

Cage Vs Truck
 
Today i was at a set of traffic lights waiting to turn right when i big lorry with a cargo container on it was turning left, as he did so i had my passenger side and smashed in all the panels and ripped off the passenger door skin just leaving the support beams and the door unable to open, then the truck decided to keep driving what a :rant:

On the positive side no one was hurt and i now get to ride the bike all the time having no excuse because will be a write off me thinks

skidmarx 04-11-09 08:24 PM

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Did you get his number? Insaane..

Dave20046 04-11-09 08:24 PM

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manage to catch his plate? What a *****, report it to the cops and everything?
This happened to someone I knew, luckily a witness got his plate and he got screwed

the_lone_wolf 04-11-09 08:41 PM

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Before you crucify the driver for running...

Chances are he didn't even notice anything - I've watched a truck in stationary traffic push a small car from lane one into the hard shoulder when moving over because the car driver sat in the truck's blind spot and the truck driver didn't see her

Doesn't excuse the poor maneuver to begin with but may explain the apparent driving off...

Nick_69 04-11-09 08:46 PM

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I was lucky that i got his plate and so did several witnesses. i phoned the cops who came to the scene and where helpful now just gotta hope it gets sorted out quick, coz i hate dealing with insurance companies

5hort5 04-11-09 08:51 PM

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There was the same sort of truck on it's side two nights ago, the **** took a LARGE roundabout to fast in winwick north warrington. Most truck drivers I have come across are a sound bunch but as is the same with bikers, there are a few that shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Shame about the cage and I hope all turns out ok for you.

Dicky Ticker 05-11-09 08:41 AM

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Tail swing is a problem with trucks and an articulated vehicle, once you have turned the cab on a right hand turn the left hand rear becomes a total blind spot,it is only the right hand rear you can see in your mirrors. Before you condone the driver, a container truck turning sharply makes a lot of suspension noise and it is quiet possible he was completely unaware he had made contact with your car.
I am not sticking up for the driver but trying to explain, perhaps, why he didnt stop.

Often containers turn over on corners and rounabouts for what might seem no apparent reason to the onlooker.Unless the cargo loaded is securely stowed it can move within the container and as they are normally sealed and the driver can not open them he can't check this. It would be the same as you riding your bike and a 20stone pillion moving his weight and putting his knee down while mid corner.

It is amazing how many similarities there are between the gravitational forces of a fully loaded artic and motorbike in braking, steering and cornering

mkz9876 05-11-09 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5hort5 (Post 2084693)
There was the same sort of truck on it's side two nights ago, the **** took a LARGE roundabout to fast in winwick north warrington. Most truck drivers I have come across are a sound bunch but as is the same with bikers, there are a few that shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Shame about the cage and I hope all turns out ok for you.


badly made roundabouts can cause slow motion roll overs with trucks cant they? remember my dad saying there was a roundabout he used to go over regularly and he always had to do it at 5-10 mph in an artic cause trucks were always rolling there cause of negetive camber?? but then it was a long time ago he told me about it so i have probably got it wrong.


back on topic, you feel very little in the cab of an artic i remember my dad saying a bloke fell asleep on the motorway one night and run into the back of the artic the only thing that alerted him to what had happened was all the sparks, got out to find a car attached to the back didnt feel a thing though, so to be fair the driver probably didnt notice what had happened,

maviczap 05-11-09 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mkz9876 (Post 2084865)
badly made roundabouts can cause slow motion roll overs with trucks cant they? remember my dad saying there was a roundabout he used to go over regularly and he always had to do it at 5-10 mph in an artic cause trucks were always rolling there cause of negetive camber?? but then it was a long time ago he told me about it so i have probably got it wrong

No, you're right, there 2 roundabouts near where I live where container lorries quite regularly topple over. Sometimes its lorries going too fast, so they installed a sign to tell the drivers to slow down, if they're detected going too fast. The other problem seems to be loads shifting in the container, which must be affected by the camber on the roundabout?

Tragically a guy was crushed in a car after a lorry toppled over at one of these roundabouts, so I don't undertake on the nearside at this roundabout anymore, just in case.

Sorry to hear about your car getting trashed, but at least you're still hear to tell the tale

jambo 05-11-09 11:45 AM

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My mum once reversed an artic up her boss' car. The first she noticed was when one of the blokes from the yard started shouting and she killed the engine. She'd made it up past the bonnet and not felt a thing. They are enormous and because the trailer can move independently of the cab the driver feels no turning forces.

After a little chat all the drivers considered that he'd been told not to park behind the artics several times before, and it could have been any one of them...:-dd

None the less, very glad to hear you're OK, hope the insurance pays out quickly.

Jambo


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