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metalmonkey 10-02-10 10:09 PM

Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
Did anyone else watch this?

I though it was awesome:cool: Now I'm not much good at maths, but it does make you think...

The way an infinite number, then releates to the universe. So from watching the program, it is belived that the universe is infinate, however if that is the case they any possiable outcome, would happen-also maybe the impossiable.

So that would mean, there would be an infinate number of all us out there, but we could never meet that copy of ourselves. So a copy of me somewhere may well be good math!

I find the whole very interesting, is anyone fansinated by this? I always came unstuck to trying understand it in maths though, theromdyamics was a head f*** for me.

SoulKiss 10-02-10 10:13 PM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by metalmonkey (Post 2178169)
So a copy of me somewhere may well be good math!

Chances of one being good at English are slim tho :) :D

Woz 10-02-10 10:17 PM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
One question that fascinates me is:

If the universe is infinite but, as scientists claim, constantly expanding... what is it expanding into?

metalmonkey 10-02-10 10:24 PM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2178173)
Chances of one being good at English are slim tho :) :D

Dude we have time to find out...but you will never that me.

metalmonkey 10-02-10 10:26 PM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by Woz (Post 2178175)
One question that fascinates me is:

If the universe is infinite but, as scientists claim, constantly expanding... what is it expanding into?

What do you think it will expand into? Why does it have to expand into anything? Is there anything to saying, that the multi-univerese will expand at the same rate, what would happen if they didn't?

Alpinestarhero 11-02-10 09:14 AM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woz (Post 2178175)
One question that fascinates me is:

If the universe is infinite but, as scientists claim, constantly expanding... what is it expanding into?

infinity

:reaper:

I watched the programme aswell, and found it very intresting but, much like quantum mechanics, a bit of a head-f***. I enjoyed the concept of "one graham". The last digit...is 7!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_number

:lol:

the_lone_wolf 11-02-10 09:31 AM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woz (Post 2178175)
One question that fascinates me is:

If the universe is infinite but, as scientists claim, constantly expanding... what is it expanding into?

I don't think current understanding says the universe is infinite is it?

Either way it's not expanding into anything, you can't think of it as a balloon being inflated

Everything is contained within the bounds of the universe

There is no "outside" because everything that is is within the universe

Hope that makes sense:smt101

Alpinestarhero 11-02-10 10:54 AM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 2178387)
I don't think current understanding says the universe is infinite is it?

Either way it's not expanding into anything, you can't think of it as a balloon being inflated

Everything is contained within the bounds of the universe

There is no "outside" because everything that is is within the universe

Hope that makes sense:smt101

Nope :D I don't think anyone can understand it, you just have to accept the concept

[edit] expanding into time?

the_lone_wolf 11-02-10 11:05 AM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
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Originally Posted by Alpinestarhero (Post 2178445)
[edit] expanding into time?

Hmm, not really possible

The problem comes when people "draw" the universe from the outside, like you're looking at a balloon - it gives the impression that you could somehow exist outside when in reality the universe is it, everything, there is nothing "outside" because there is no outside...

Saying the universe has to exist within another container because that container is infinite is flawed, infinite isn't a measurable distance or calculatable number, it's the concept to explain what happens when you end up dividing by zero, at best mathematics can only explain what happens as you tend to infinity, the point at which you hit zero is still a messy byproduct of our flawed mathematics system...

sinbad 11-02-10 11:19 AM

Re: Horizon-To infinty and beyond
 
I think the idea that it could be viewed from outside stems from the way the big-bang is described as the creation of "The Universe". If it is actually the creation of all the debris we call galaxies within the universe then that is different, and the universe existed before the big-bang and is of course far bigger than the furthest reaches of the explosion.

If that's true, and this infinity theory is apt, then is it not also possible that there are infinite big bangs creating infinite numbers of what we call "The Universe" throughout the much larger actual Universe?


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