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454697819 24-02-10 08:07 AM

How illegal is...
 
Taking money from your company when your a director?

Our director is taking advantage of the economic climate and building a couple fo high spec houses on land he has bought whilst its cheap.

All well and good but he is using the projects in which to do, i.e invoicing the project for all the work. And its not just like £20k we talking £300k in some respects.

I seriously doubt he is declaring it to HMRC.

Now it might be he is building them to sell and put the money into the company but the chance of that is about 0.0%

Im only asking as we were told last week that no pay rises this year and we have already made 1 redundancy, and if I end up out the door it might help to take some evidence with me? :smt104

funny old world

Kuze 24-02-10 09:27 AM

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Sounds dodgy but as for if its illegal no idea.

Hope you keep a job tho being outta work is horrible.

malks 24-02-10 09:30 AM

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nah i dont think there is anything wrong with what he is doing. from what i gather from your short post boss has land and is bulding some property to sell. technically he is getting his company to build these houses (it looks like he's taking the money from the company, but on paper it probably means the company are doing the works!) there for once the project is finished your boss could sell these properties, then pay the company for bulding them.

however there is nothing to say a company has to make a profit on all works done. so technically it could cost the company £100k to build the house, but they may deem it the best option to sell the house for £90k! i'm not saying its the right thing to do if he's made someone redundant, but legally doing nothing wrong!

PoRk ChOp 24-02-10 09:55 AM

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He could be taking the money as a 'Directors loan' which he is entitled to do

454697819 24-02-10 10:02 AM

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fair enough, its more that if it was above board we would have expected a job number and just everything be charged to that, but he is charing bits to each job trying to hide it..

Stil, itsl Rubbing me up the wrong way

ophic 24-02-10 11:00 AM

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Just document what you can, if you end up out of the door, approach the police for some advice, and if it's dodgy, the state will pick up the case.

Isn't blackmail illegal too? :p

Owenski 24-02-10 11:06 AM

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Im sure if he's doing it so blatantly that you know about it then he's doing it legally.

454697819 24-02-10 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2192883)
Just document what you can, if you end up out of the door, approach the police for some advice, and if it's dodgy, the state will pick up the case.

Isn't blackmail illegal too? :p

yes but two wrongs make a wright, didn't your mum tell you that

hindle8907 24-02-10 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7 (Post 2192887)
Im sure if he's doing it so blatantly that you know about it then he's doing it legally.

+1

Captain Nemo 24-02-10 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PoRk ChOp (Post 2192837)
He could be taking the money as a 'Directors loan' which he is entitled to do


he can only take the money out as a directors loan if its profit that the company has already made, you cant take a directors loan on money that you know is required for the tax or vat.

even then it has to be formalised, im pretty sure the company has to eventually have a net beneift from the loan or HMRC come down on you.


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