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spikeysam 25-03-10 12:19 AM

Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
As a SV650S newbie, I'm about to attempt my first oil change.

Do I need to buy a swing-arm stand or center stand before one can do an oil change, or can an oil change be done without much difficulty from just the kick-stand?

Thanks again!!

Spikey

simesb 25-03-10 12:23 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Don't think you would get all the oil out unless you held it upright after the last had come out whilst on the side stand. Paddock stands make a whole lot of things easier - a worthwhile investment,

Barrypz 25-03-10 12:23 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
You really want the bike upright to get the right amount of oil in. You could have somebody hold it up. Also want to make sure the drain plug is the low point when you drain.
Don't make the mistake of using the sightglass with the bike on the side stand.

5hort5 25-03-10 12:30 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Last oil change I did was on the side stand, you get most out.

Just read the haynes manual (if you haven't got on, get one, you may get a cheap one off ebay), and there is nothing about putting the bike on a stand or anything like that, it just says warm the engine up so that the oil drains easily. If you know when the oil was last changed then great if not then probably worth changing the filter at the same time and when fitting the oil drain plug back again it's best to have a new crush washer but many have put the old one back on with no probs. (Note: if you do this then check for oil leaks regularly for a few days after)

Edit - and DON'T buy cheap oil, it's a false economy

spikeysam 25-03-10 01:16 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Wow thanks for the reply. What do you mean by it's a false economy? I bought some $4.99 a bottle, so 4 bottles which is more than enough for the SV650S only costed me a paltry $15 bucks USD. But it does say Castrol and I have heard of Castrol, and it says it's for motorcycles.

Should I be returning this stuff for more expensive oil?

21QUEST 25-03-10 01:19 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
You don't need a stand of any description(apart from the side stand :-P) ...totally unnecessary.

Another point of not here....doing the oil change with the bike on a paddock stand doesn't necessarily get the most oil out.



Cheers
Ben

5hort5 25-03-10 01:31 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Ahh - an american, so oil is cheaper than water lol

ok, well Castrol is good, is it Semi synthetic?

oo - the false economy bit means that cheap rubbish oil will break your engine faster than the good stuff and will need changing a lot more, it's just not worth buying the cheapest.

Red Herring 25-03-10 06:20 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Depends on where the drain plug is. From memory (I guess I ought to go outside and look) the SV one is on the left so it's actually better to drain on the sidestand than on a centre stand, which tends to raise the back of the bike anyhow. Just remember to warm the engine up first so the oil drains better, and don't forget to do the filter as well.

When you refill either get someone to hold the bike up right or put the bilk of the oil in (about 3 litres) then add a little at a time checking the sight glass with the bike level regularly. Once at the right level run the bike for a couple of minutes, allow to stand briefly, then check again.

Alpinestarhero 25-03-10 08:50 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2223597)
Depends on where the drain plug is. From memory (I guess I ought to go outside and look) the SV one is on the left so it's actually better to drain on the sidestand than on a centre stand, which tends to raise the back of the bike anyhow. Just remember to warm the engine up first so the oil drains better, and don't forget to do the filter as well.

When you refill either get someone to hold the bike up right or put the bilk of the oil in (about 3 litres) then add a little at a time checking the sight glass with the bike level regularly. Once at the right level run the bike for a couple of minutes, allow to stand briefly, then check again.

3 litres would be too much! I put in about 2 and a half...I fill up to 2, thencheck the sight glass, fill until the oil is at the top line in the window (with the bike upright), put the filler cap on then start the engine and let it run for a couple of seconds (make sure the oil pressure light goes out!) then re-check the oil level and top up so the oil is between the lines in the window, but more towards the upper line :)

(sorry, i wasnt having a go because I know you know about bikes, maybe you ment 3 instead of 2 so it was a typo but just before the OP makes a mistake and has the bother of draining excess oil lol)

ShadFX 25-03-10 11:54 AM

Re: Do you need a centerstand for oil changes?
 
Always done my oil changes on the centre stand on previous bikes - not going to change tactics now cos of the SV. Will probs pop her up on the paddock stand. Let me tell you now - that stand also made adjusting the chain and lubing it up SOOOO much easier :) they can be had off ebay for peanuts (mine were £40 for a pair) and really do help :)


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