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jasonkoscho 03-05-10 08:55 PM

White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
2001 | SV650s | 11,500 miles.

Ok,
So I was riding into work this morning. I'm in 4th gear cruising at 7800 when I notice my bike lose a bit of power and drop to 7000. I then look behind me and there is a TON of white smoke billowing out of my exhaust. As I pull to the side of the road, the engine died.

I lifted the tank and see oil all over the airbox, and everywhere under the tank...


Here are my Compression Test Results. They are very high IMHO:

Front: 230
Front Oil Added: 245

Rear: 250
Rear Oil Added: 275

Here are some photos:
Oil on the underside of the tank:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/...795bc5f3_o.jpg

Oil on the carbs:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/...4883cd4f_o.jpg

More Oil on Carbs:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/...0946956f_o.jpg

Oil on front plug:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/...cd4eec79_o.jpg

Oil on front plug and some sort of grit on the boot side:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2421681...49792/sizes/o/

Oil in the air box:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2421681...7623843776691/

Oil in the air box and filter:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2421681...7623843776691/

Thanks in advance!
Jason.

yorkie_chris 03-05-10 08:58 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
Oil added? Where?

jasonkoscho 03-05-10 08:59 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
Added a teaspoon of oil to the cylinder and then recheck the compression to see what the change was.

sunshine 03-05-10 09:16 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
Quote:

Protein Filled:
230 is really high for a stock motor. Is there any work that has been done to the bike? If you really have 230 Lbs of Cold Cranking Compression you need to run high octane fuel since you may get some detonation. If the motor is 100% stock, I would double check carbon buildup as well as cam timing. Sounds to me like it's time to freshen her up. I had one SV that was up to 250 lbs and we toned it down since it would be too easy to grenade something at that rate.
found this on google your compression should be 213

Im not an expert on 4 stroke engines, im just interested in what the problem is

jasonkoscho 03-05-10 09:21 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshine (Post 2259550)
found this on google your compression should be 213

Im not an expert on 4 stroke engines, I'm just interested in what the problem is

Hey Thanks. I saw that as well. Yeah, I'm wondering if it's just carbon deposits. My secondary concern is that once I pull the trigger and start to tear the motor down to inspect gaskets and seals. I'll also need to replace head studs and other misc items that will start to add up.

Im not sure where Oil is coming from? Breather tube? Cylinder? Head Gasket?

Dicky Ticker 03-05-10 09:23 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
Small amount of oil added to the top of the piston to seal the rings,thereby increasing the compression---old trick often used on older design diesel engines with oil plungers and decompressor valves.

sunshine 03-05-10 09:29 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
for the oil start simple check every hose that oil runs through for being split or loose/not connected. look for cheap options first.

Dicky Ticker 03-05-10 09:32 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
OIL----has the engine oil level dropped drastically and you say white smoke so check your water level. I would imagine if you burnt that much oil you would have extreme burnt oil smell from the rear.No oil smell and pure white smoke would indicate water ingress
Simple beginning

Miss_Undaztood 03-05-10 10:32 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
White "smoke" is normally steam from coolant getting into the cylinders.
From the pics, it looks more like green coolant to me, especially in the airbox and on the end of the spark plug, not oil.
In which case, maybe head gasket or cracked head ?

jasonkoscho 03-05-10 10:41 PM

Re: White smoke, Oil, Power Loss. Help
 
The coolant is bright blue, so that's why I thought it was Oil on the plugs and in the air-box and not coolant. But who knows, maybe there was a minor amount of contamination between the oil and coolant that lead to the greenish color.. I know its usually "milky".

All-in-all the "liquid" that was all over the cylinder, airbox, and bike was more of an oil consistency, but again, im not certain what it is at this point.

I checked the hoses, they all checked out OK. I cleaned the bike and checked for visual cracks, nothing.

The coolant and oil levels seem to be fine (which is weird because there was such an explosion of oil). I drained a little of the coolant it it seemed clean. The oil in the window looks brand-new.

Any thoughts? Do you guys think it's time to bite the bullet and do a visual inspection?


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