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ophic 02-02-15 02:44 PM
Motorway Speed Cameras
 
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Originally Posted by keith_d (Post 2997774)
1) The new motorway speed cameras are designed to be hidden, and the Highways Agency is refusing to detail where they will be located, "for operational reasons". So it's clearly no longer got anything to do with improving road safety
Not sure it's quite that clear. Whilst I think it's perhaps a tad unfair, if you know where the speed cameras are, you just slow down as you pass them, which contributes nothing to safety or speed control and actually could arguably make things more dangerous, with braking on an otherwise clear road.

Perhaps if people didn't know where the cameras are, they'd be more likely to stick to the speed limit all the time.

maviczap 02-02-15 02:47 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by keith_d (Post 2997774)
Policing by stealth.

1) The new motorway speed cameras are designed to be hidden, and the Highways Agency is refusing to detail where they will be located, "for operational reasons". So it's clearly no longer got anything to do with improving road safety.
Its all about making money.

Plus if the speed limit is temporarily reduce, they can whack you with a huge fine.

Re Top Gear Steve Harley story

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/t...ve-pop-5044579

So it'll pay to keep to the limit

maviczap 02-02-15 02:48 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2997775)
Not sure it's quite that clear. Whilst I think it's perhaps a tad unfair, if you know where the speed cameras are, you just slow down as you pass them, which contributes nothing to safety or speed control and actually could arguably make things more dangerous, with braking on an otherwise clear road.

Perhaps if people didn't know where the cameras are, they'd be more likely to stick to the speed limit all the time.
The new ones are painted grey

ophic 02-02-15 03:13 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2997777)
The new ones are painted grey
Not following. I'm arguing that they're more effective if you don't know where they are.

maviczap 02-02-15 04:03 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2997783)
Not following. I'm arguing that they're more effective if you don't know where they are.
I understood what you were saying, but if they temporarily reduce the speed limit, which they do on the M25, and you don't know where they are & you can't see them, you could quite happily be doing the NSL and still trigger the camera & have no argument. Its these sections of the M25 with variable NSL where its going to be a problem, if you haven't seen the sign changing the NSL.

Why not just have avg speed cameras all the way round the M25 if it will make folk drive better.

NTECUK 02-02-15 04:21 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
apparently we have average speed cams going in along the kelverdon section of the A12

maviczap 02-02-15 04:25 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
And on the East Bergholt section, but TBH they are needed there

ophic 02-02-15 04:32 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2997786)
...if you haven't seen the sign changing the NSL...
But if you missed the sign, it wouldn't make a difference if the speed camera was visible or not as you wouldn't know what the limit was anyway.

ophic 02-02-15 04:34 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2997786)
Why not just have avg speed cameras all the way round the M25 if it will make folk drive better.
Probably cost. If you can get the same impact with just a few hidden cameras, which is better?

Teejayexc 02-02-15 04:37 PM
Re: Gripe of the day - What is yours?
 
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Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2997794)
But if you missed the sign, it wouldn't make a difference if the speed camera was visible or not as you wouldn't know what the limit was anyway.
Isn't that Mavs point...if you don't know otherwise you'd assume the nsl was in force, shirley:confused:


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