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manxsv 08-12-05 09:25 PM

Wheel bearings
 
Replacing the all the wheel bearings on my bike, so I got a quote from the local Suzuki dealership of £10.89 plus vat for each one, with christmas looming and house buying could do without shelling out over £50.00 so I went to a local engineering firm and they can supply the bearings for £3.89. so just want to know this is best to get the proper suzuki bearings or go for the cheaper ones, the engineer said they would do the job and would be perfectly safe.

Brucey 08-12-05 09:35 PM

Suzuki original bearings are cheap and nasty chinese made crap with only one seal suggest you get real bearings like SKF with two seals they will cost less than the Suzuki ones and last four times as long.

Sid Squid 09-12-05 07:47 AM

I wouldn't buy the bearings from a Suzuki dealer if they come supplied as a Suzuki part, they're too dear, even before any questions about quality, although many dealers are aware that supplied through the manufacturers spares network common parts such as bearings are simply too dear and as such they supply locally sourced, and often better quality parts.

A typical wheel bearing would cost £3 to £5, from a bearing factor, often £10 - £15 for a similar bearing from a dealer. Make sure you get a bearing with seals on both sides, the originals often don't have seals, only a shield, and then often only on one side.h

BillyC 09-12-05 08:58 AM

I've no experience of this myself, so perhaps someone could explain this to me with a little more detail.

When you buy a replacement set of bearings, do they come with all the little balls, complete with the circular housing? Or am I thinking crap?

Presumeably there's nothing special about the parts that Suzuki provide for this, which is why alternatives are easy to source. Would it be the same for car wheel bearings?

Stormspiel 09-12-05 09:04 AM

I've just bought all the bearings required for wheels ( front set, back set & sprocket carrier) and it cost me £27 for the lot. Thats from George wards suzuki, they are Koyo bearings with double seals and pre-greased.

One question, whats the best grease to add when fitting as i don't fancy putting copper grease in (it'll corrode it won't it with the copper particles, or am i talking rollox??)

Brucey 09-12-05 09:30 AM

The reason they were so cheap is you have bought the same cheap and nasty bearings that Suzuki fit as standard and are worthless unless you like wasting time in constantly replacing things like bearings in future do a little homework go into a bearing suplier and have them source you some proper bearings they will outlast the bike.

Banus 09-12-05 09:35 AM

Reading stuff like this starts to make you think about your own bearings. Obviously it depends on your riding style (wheelies - excessive braking etc) but "on average" (if there's any such thing) how long should a set of bearings last before they need replacing ?

21QUEST 09-12-05 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormspiel
I've just bought all the bearings required for wheels ( front set, back set & sprocket carrier) and it cost me £27 for the lot. Thats from George wards suzuki, they are Koyo bearings with double seals and pre-greased.

One question, whats the best grease to add when fitting as i don't fancy putting copper grease in (it'll corrode it won't it with the copper particles, or am i talking rollox??)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucey
The reason they were so cheap is you have bought the same cheap and nasty bearings that Suzuki fit as standard and are worthless unless you like wasting time in constantly replacing things like bearings in future do a little homework go into a bearing suplier and have them source you some proper bearings they will outlast the bike.

Brucey , did you actually take the time to read Stormspiel post at all? or you are just spewing stuff out. I've never heard of Koyo described as crap but I'm always willing to learn.

Maybe you can tell us what special quality bearings you are buying.

Cheers
Ben




EDIT: The reason they were so cheap is more to do with ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid
......... although many dealers are aware that supplied through the manufacturers spares network common parts such as bearings are simply too dear and as such they supply locally sourced, and often better quality parts.


Brucey 09-12-05 10:20 AM

My Hayabusa came with Koyo bearings they failed big time at less than 10000 everybody on www.200mph.org is aware of how ****e these bearings are they are made of monkey metal and only come with one seal a proper bearing will last well over twice as long trust me Suzuki only use them because they are cheap chinese **** and they make a lot of money on them from mugs who insist on fitting original fittment components its your choice.

21QUEST 09-12-05 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucey
My Hayabusa came with Koyo bearings they failed big time at less than 10000 everybody on www.200mph.org is aware of how sh*te these bearings are they are made of monkey metal and only come with one seal a proper bearing will last well over twice as long trust me Suzuki only use them because they are cheap chinese sh*t and they make a lot of money on them from mugs who insist on fitting original fittment components its your choice.

Brucey without wish to be rude you are talking crap IMHO.

Do a check on the company and I think you will find they are not actually some Monkey Business. Actually best thing is to speak someone at a bearing factor(ideally unbiased).
Are they only used by Suzuki? What about Honda , Yamaha or Kawasaki. I can't tell you myself but hopefully someone will clarify.

Koyo does do 2RS bearings(even mentioned in Stormspeils post) so try and get your facts right before posting.


Oh ...Koyo is actually a Japanese company :roll: :wink:


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