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rictus01 05-02-06 04:51 PM

playing with ECU
 
Now I know the SV doesn't have the latitude to do this, but i've been playing with my Tuneboy software, over the last 4 days I've been changing the mapping little by little, took it for a run today (just over 100 miles) and it's smoothed out most of the little things I hadn't realised were even there until they'd gone. although far from bad to begin with it's just that bit better now, I got six maps for different riding, from smooth pull away to really sharp throttle, econamy to drinks fuel like an American muscle car.

anyway, just compared the original map with the latest :shock: , didn't know it had changed so much.

http://www.bureaunet.com/FTP/Rictus/tune1f.jpg
Original fuel mapping

http://www.bureaunet.com/FTP/Rictus/tune1i.jpg
Original Ingnition mapping

http://www.bureaunet.com/FTP/Rictus/tune2f.jpg
Latest Fuel Mapping

http://www.bureaunet.com/FTP/Rictus/tune2i.jpg
Latest Ignition mapping.

Oh so much more to do :roll:


Cheers Mark.

monkey 08-04-08 01:33 AM

Re: playing with ECU
 
How did you get on with the tuneboy? Am considering getting one in a group buy on a Triumph forum. Apparently there are some great tunes out there and I can sort out the speedo error and soon will be able to fit a cheaper version of a quickshift to it.

lukemillar 08-04-08 03:51 AM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 875282)
Now I know the SV doesn't have the latitude to do this, but i've been playing with my Tuneboy software, over the last 4 days I've been changing the mapping little by little, took it for a run today (just over 100 miles) and it's smoothed out most of the little things I hadn't realised were even there until they'd gone. although far from bad to begin with it's just that bit better now, I got six maps for different riding, from smooth pull away to really sharp throttle, econamy to drinks fuel like an American muscle car.

anyway, just compared the original map with the latest :shock: , didn't know it had changed so much.

Cheers Mark.

Hey Mark,

Are you using this on the t-bird or the beast? Am going to purchase a tuneboy in the next week or two - what is the software like and how intuitive is it?

Thanks
Luke

rictus01 08-04-08 04:40 AM

Re: playing with ECU
 
you can download the software for free from the site, and also get the lead fairly cheaply, however the convertion key is what costs.

As to the software, well it doesn't work on carbed bikes so I've only used it on the T5's, and lets just say it puts the dealers code unit to shame, you can change everything, and I mean everything, from a diagnostic screen, to resetting error codes, up to fuel & ignition mappings for 16 different rev ranges and 8 throttle positions, if you try something out side normal range it will give a warning, but it's quite able to blowup the engine if you tell it to :(, but just removing the 2 dips in performance that all bikes come with ( one at about 3,500 rev for emissions testing and the other at 5,000 for ride by noise testing) makes it a fair bit smoother.

It's one of those bits of software that can be used just as a basic map uploader and diagnostic tool, or you can write your own with different performance and throttle characteristics ( I've written or modified a number of maps for other T5 owners, once I know what the problem they are having is it's now easy to adjust it out), obviously this takes time to learn, but then you can always put back the basic map at anytime, also good for reseting last service date so you can keep that upto date for if it goes back to the dealer, a whole load of stuff I've forgotten as I haven't used it for a while now, but it's sitting there for me to do a custom map for the new engine at some point, of course I can only speak of the version I have for the Speed Triple, but it basically gives you freedom from the dealer and is as good as any screwdriver on a carbed bike.

Cheers Mark.

monkey 08-04-08 12:31 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
I've read you can balance the throttle bodies too. It's gotta be worth it just going on some of the graphs up on the Triumph site. Only thing is my bloomin' laptop battery has had it.

Stu 08-04-08 04:13 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 875282)
Now I know the SV doesn't have the latitude to do this, .

I thought Steve Jordan 'tuned' the ECUs of SV's?
Would you like an SV ECU to correct? ;)

rictus01 08-04-08 04:45 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1470832)
I thought Steve Jordan 'tuned' the ECUs of SV's?
Would you like an SV ECU to correct? ;)

unfortunately the SV one is rather cheaper than the original T5 unit, so the steps are that much greater this directly reflex in how fine the tune can be made.

it's fairly easy to negate the low points put in for emissions and noise testing, but an output modifier will do that just as well (power comander to you).

and no I don't want an SV one thanks, you've obviously missed the key code bit that makes the software applicable to that ECU only (plus the fact it is only available for certain makes and models, the SV not being one of them).


Cheers Mark.

yorkie_chris 08-04-08 04:46 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Sort of, the SV ECU, AFAIK is limited in its adjustment and certainly not this advanced.

Edit; beated to it.

yorkie_chris 12-05-08 01:27 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Been looking at the mapping, and once again my reaction is "whoa... cool" :-D

Stig 12-05-08 02:06 PM

Re: playing with ECU
 
Very nice pictures of mountains there Mark.


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