Amber and red mean stop
 

9:00am today junction M25 and A1 two bad SV'ers one on a thou and the other on a six fifty jumped the lights and nearly caused an accident with two cars coming east bound to the round about--------------I will not post up the numbers and embarass anybody,but be careful ----- PLEASE----------

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

Light jumping seems to have become standard practice. On my regular commute I have to wait 3 or 4 seconds after getting a green before I can go, added to the built in buffer they must still be going about 6 - 8 secs after their lights go red.

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

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amber actually means stop unless it appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident

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but yes, jumping the lights in a car will cause an accident

jumping them on a bike will get you flattened...:eek:

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

Yeah- happens on my 2 major roundabouts on the work commute- Tolworth and Painshill.

Have to put my hands up and say I went over a red tonight- though when it went to Amber, I didn't feel I could safely stop before the red came on. Still felt quite guilty 'bout it too (I did look around the junction as I approached too- wasn't a mindless event....

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

I find the buses in Manchester are the worst for this! It's bad enough in a car/bike but on a vehicle that's long and heavy its just terrible! Just be as vocal a driver as possible ;)

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

Bike copper next to me this morning didn't bother waiting for the green, amber seemed good enough for him :rolleyes: As was about 43 (indicated) in a 30.

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

I trust you took his number and reported him? One rule for us and one rule for them really gets me going (have ranted about this before so will try not to here)

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As a courier I would like to correct everyone...........
Amber means go and green means go really fast!!

Just kiddin'.... be careful out there!

Just remember the most important rule for biking...........

Rubberside down!!! :D

Re: Amber and red mean stop
 

its hurts when you hit the side of someone whos just run a red light :(