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tomjones2 13-06-07 06:48 PM

Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
As part of my uni course which i finsihed last summer they gave us a access to the oracle dbase 10g administration workshop. The oralce software is 10g release 1. We got loads of books and a cd to run the dbase and practice on.

I was not to bad with the oracle, however I havent got a clue about linux. The documentation says i need linux x86, what does this mean. Can i use any linux os or is there a specific one for oracle?

The next problem is hardware spec, I have a laptop with 30gb if I clean it up, a 1.8 p4 but only 376? of ram, that what the system propeties say anyway. Is there any hope of it running either oracle or linux with this much ram, the system requirments in the book say min 512 ram for the oracle, this website say i will need much more but it is for release 2.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub...b_install.html


Many thanks for any help

weazelz 13-06-07 07:11 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomjones2 (Post 1211600)
The documentation says i need linux x86, what does this mean. Can i use any linux os or is there a specific one for oracle?

The next problem is hardware spec, I have a laptop with 30gb if I clean it up, a 1.8 p4 but only 376? of ram, that what the system propeties say anyway. Is there any hope of it running either oracle or linux with this much ram, the system requirments in the book say min 512 ram for the oracle, this website say i will need much more but it is for release 2.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub...b_install.html


Many thanks for any help

linux x86 is linux for Intel pentium-type processors. there are lots of different free distributions of linux, there will no doubt be a stream of people along shortly to tell you their favourite

I mostly use fedora, which you can download here

unfortunately, if oracle say you need 512MB of RAM, then the software is probably written so it doesn't install/run on less, it's probably not a case of it just running slowly. in any case, less than 512MB these days is pretty unusable on whatever current OS you want to use. you can probably pick up a second-hand desktop for £100 with a gig of ram in it

cmit37 14-06-07 08:14 AM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
I do not believe that your laptop is suitable because of the lack of ram. Also setting up Oracle on linux is more involving than clicking on an "exe" and playing about with the gui. Stick to installing it on MS Windows although I haven't tried that yet(only installed and configured it on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 servers) I expect it will be marginally easier and you may be more productive that way. If you have the time to learn some Linux before your Oracle install go for it, otherwise you will get yourself confused.

cmit37 14-06-07 08:21 AM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
If you still want to have a go at installing it on linux you can download CentOS 4.5 i386 (not 5) that is a "re-dressed" version of RHEL 4 http://www.centos.org/ and then follow the instructions in your link.

tomjones2 14-06-07 12:42 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Cheers for the relpies all, the only problem is the disk I have only seems to be contain the files for linux. Is there a version free evaluation version available for windows?

cmit37 14-06-07 02:49 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Take your pick from here:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/sof...10g/index.html

timwilky 14-06-07 07:39 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
My development system runs 10g on a 1.3 GHz celeron system with 1GB of ram. default install is a nono. It tries to create a huge DB etc.

Tune your kernel to allocate enough shared memory resources. I did also have to fight the install in order to get it to work on a Fedora core 4 system.

Oracle licences for development are free, so download every tool you need from the above site. I am still learning Jdeveloper, It is such a powerful ldevelopment tool.

Don't run it on a windoze system. You want it to fly, not crawl.

Personally these days, if I don't actually need to use the Oracle functionality, I would opt for MySQL for a good fast DB.

tomjones2 14-06-07 10:25 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 1212837)
My development system runs 10g on a 1.3 GHz celeron system with 1GB of ram. default install is a nono. It tries to create a huge DB etc.

Tune your kernel to allocate enough shared memory resources. I did also have to fight the install in order to get it to work on a Fedora core 4 system.

Oracle licences for development are free, so download every tool you need from the above site. I am still learning Jdeveloper, It is such a powerful ldevelopment tool.

Don't run it on a windoze system. You want it to fly, not crawl.

Personally these days, if I don't actually need to use the Oracle functionality, I would opt for MySQL for a good fast DB.

Did my major project on MySQL, seemed very easy to use, we were always led to belive that oracle was better (less likley to lose data in the event of a crash etc etc etc) and ran better with much bigger db's and large number of users. Although I belive the gap has been signifcantly closed in prevoius years, partically with the small/medium companies that dont want to pay huge costs. Is this an accurate view, IYO?

On a side note is there any websites that I could pick up some extra cash doing SQL and PHP stuff, I would need to start small and learn but I was alright with SQL a few years ago.

tomjones2 14-06-07 10:28 PM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmit37 (Post 1212558)

cheers for the replies cmit, I think i might try and installing linux for the "fun" of it. Would be nice to use another enviroment for a change and TBH would be good for my career as well.

cmit37 15-06-07 04:38 AM

Re: Oracle running on linux- sorry techy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomjones2 (Post 1213057)
Although I belive the gap has been signifcantly closed in prevoius years, partically with the small/medium companies that dont want to pay huge costs. Is this an accurate view, IYO?

I can't see why a small to medium business would need Oracle and as a straight forward database server there is absolutely nothing wrong with MySQL, PostgresSQL etc.

In terms of features any of these database servers are light years away from Oracle and I can't see how they would ever catch-up without gargantuan investment. Just pick-up an Oracle book and mesmerise yourself with the amount of things it can do and how it does them. Where Oracle makes sense is in large deployments.

Good luck!


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