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Old 31-10-06, 08:36 AM   #11
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As I started reading this thread I was getting setup ready to post similar to this:
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Originally Posted by timwilky
OK, so you have now got a toe in the water. forget all the MS crap and do the job properly.

Get some Oracle accreditation and learn what a proper scalable database solution is all about.

Sorry to have to say this, but if you want to eventually earn peer respect and serious money. Play with the big boys toys. Nobody is ever going to seriously consider putting their mission critical applications on a SQL Server solution.
Seems Timwilky saved me the bother However, Tim, you forgot to put "MSSQL" in that last sentence.

Yes Java isn't the be all & end all (I also code in C++/C#/PHP/ASP/PLSQL/Perl/Python and shell scripting and I'm an Oracle DBA), but IMO it's a damned sight better than VB, and easier to get to grips with than C++/C#.

Congratulations on the test pass Kinvig, but MS certifications wouldn't be what I'd opt for. Yes some software houses are entirely MS based, but I fear they have a limited time left in the water. How many MS based languages do you know that a standard home user can deploy on Linux without detailed instructions? How many standard home users are getting p****d off with MS charging so much for their operating systems, and starting to see Linux advertised all over the net? After all 'configure; make; make install clean;' isn't the most difficult of things, and can't be done with .Net based applications.

Our company is the opposite, for a long time we've relied upon Windows. Big mistake. Those who must be obeyed are realising this, and employing people who have Linux/Unix experience so that we can do what we do, without Windows. As it turns out, we also rely on WebObjects, who, as of 5.4+ no long officially support Windows based servers (due to WebObjects being by Apple), so we're pretty much forcing our multi-million £ clients to move away from Windows. Naturally this is very slowly, but it's still happening. How many more times will it happen?

EDIT: MavUK, I've just been moved from a support role over to Java Developer (well, Analyst/Developer). I don't consider myself gods gift, nor do I look at any of the other developers as that. The best language to use for a given task is usually defined by the task itself. For what we do as a company, Java fits the bill. But this also has bash scripting and C++ behind it, obviously not forgetting the overhead that the DB itself is taking away from the application. I just think there's more to life than MicroSoft.

Again, congrats on the test pass Kinvig!
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