Ok so I dropped it again, was using a drive-way to do a turn in - nose in, roll, back sort of thing.
Went a bit wrong due to an aggressive drain, had to stop dead, lost it to the right, tried to hold, had to give up and lower - so no damage to me or bike.
Had started to try and pick it up (and struggling) when a passer-by came to my aid and we had her upright again in a couple of seconds.
So whats the best technique of getting a pointy SV on to rubber again if its on its side?
You can all stop laughing now
David