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Originally Posted by 21QUEST
What has a being a cack handed rider got to do witha tyre peformance?
Well IMO, has everything to do with the perceived performance(or not as the case may be).
How do we explain a rider on MEZ4 beinf able to ride rings round another rider on an Sv shod with say, a Diablo? FWIW "cack handed" was used in part for the benefit of DD lo but still applies.....read workman blaming his tools, in some ways.
I beg to differ on the D220 not hindering or helping the situation. It stands to reason that a grippier tyre will allow a rider who has less finess with the bike controls to get away with more.
You found nothing wrong with them in terms of grip you say. That is just part of the point as there are plenty of folks who will tell you that the tyres have bugger all grip. You just did not like the characteirstices of the tyre as you say.
Regards Suzuki using a shallower profile tyre, I don't know how much of a difference there is between the D220/MEZ4 and the other tyres that are said to suit the SV better but I reckon the SV Storm probably not that far off it.
The Avon Storm is noticeably wider/shallower when compared to the Diablo Strada.
Personally, in general, I prefer a more linear profile but I just adapt to what ever tyre is on there.
Whether the limits changing by change in tyres is an improvement or not, will depend on how you look at it, I suppose.
Arguable if it does actually actually improve the rider per se  . That said, we'd all agree confidence is the name of the game so if it gives a rider more confindence, that's not a bad thing.
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"Perceived" performance, "confidence" - now we're on the same page!
I'm gonna get blasted for this by folk who've had accidents or "moments" on D220's, but they have to ask themselves if a different tyre really would have made any difference in the same situation.
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I beg to differ on the D220 not hindering or helping the situation. It stands to reason that a grippier tyre will allow a rider who has less finess with the bike controls to get away with more.
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But, IMO anyway, the D220's not a less grippy tyre! Hence why I think cack handed rider on Strada vs cack handed rider on D220 = no difference. It's a sports touring tyre. I'm going to make an assumption that they are a softer compound (I'm sure someone will correct me if thats wrong) than the Diablo and so should actually have more grip in the dry. Never crashed them so I dont know
, but I had no shiny rubber left round the chicken strips of mine. I'm making that assumption because mine didn't last as long. 4k back and 7k front on my D220's and the Diablo's have 4.5k on them now and still have deep tread.
If you put a really hard compound commuting tyre, the likes of some of those put on GS500's and the like, then a cack handed rider may more likely to hit the deck, but IMO you can't blame the D220 for that.
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There are plenty of folks who will tell you that the tyres have bugger all grip.
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In the wet I don't know because I don't push any tyre anywhere near it's limits in the wet. Maybe those who've done wet trackdays can post an opinion.
In the dry I think this is a perception/confidence thing, the steeper profile tyres tip in easier and you don't have to push them as hard to achieve the same lean so it feels you can push harder and hence feels like you have more grip. You get to a certain lean on the D220 and it feels like you have to pull it down with your knee to get it over further, rather than the bike being happy to lean further as it is with the Strada, so it doesn't feel right, but have the confidence to push it over it and the grip is there no problem.